Please adjust your bookmarks - our new domain is www.planetiskcon.com


January 30, 2009

Madhava Ghosh dasa, New Vrndavan, USA : Old Age Has Benefits


Working people frequently ask retired people what they do to make their days interesting.

Well, for example, the other day my wife and I went into town and went into a shop. We were only in there for about 5 minutes. When we came out, there was a cop writing out a parking ticket.

We went up to him and said, ‘Come on man, how about giving a senior citizen a break?’

He ignored us and continued writing the ticket. I called him a Nazi turd. He glared at me and started writing another ticket for having worn tires.

So my wife called him a **** -head. He finished the second ticket and put it on the windshield with the first. Then he started writing a third ticket. This went on for about 20 minutes. The more we abused him, the more tickets he wrote.

Personally, we didn’t care. We came into town by bus. We try to have a little fun each day now that we’re retired. It’s important at our age.

Posted in Jokes      

by Madhava Gosh at January 30, 2009 02:39 PM

Manoj, Melbourne, AU : 110. La Carnaval Spirituel at Torquay - The last show


On Sunday, 25th January 09, the bustling beach town of Torquay, witnessed, its first ever show of La Carnaval Spirituel - a display of eastern culture and spiritual wisdom - a brainchild of His Holiness Indradyumna Swami maharaj. Will they like it? Will many come? After all, this place isn’t Melbourne, one of the most cosmopolitan and multicultural cities in the world. Here people came for the beach, the surf and the laid back life style. Will they accept a different view of life? We will have to wait and watch, I suppose.

Dominic - The power horse !

Dominic - The power horse !

Dominic prabhu drove us to the venue from Melbourne. Dominic is very impressive. He has so much energy and common sense to pull anything off. He also doesn’t beat around the bush. If he has to say something, and its right, he says it without a second thought. So, before we have something to ask or tell him, its a good idea if we have pondered over the question a little bit. Also, he is a workaholic. From the morning prasadam time, when I chanced to see him, till we drove back to Melbourne, he worked. I never saw him take a rest. From arranging the vans, getting all materials in it, driving us there for 1.5 hrs or so, setting up the entire venue by proper delegation, controlling sound and light, packing up, driving us all back, getting all the stuff out and still have all the energy in the world, to do them all again if needed. What an inspiration !

The first impression I had of the venue - are we at the right place? It was a sports auditorium.

Skateboarding

Skateboarding

There were a few kids and very little kids, who spent all afternoon in the hot sun, skateboarding. They would go down a concrete hill, the others would cheer, go up at full speed to another one at the end, be air borne, rotate their wheels in mid air and come back down to do it all over again. And many times, they fell…very hard. Yet, no problems. A bit of swearing, get the dirt of the elbows and try it again. No pain, No gain.

Writings on the wall

Writings on the wall

Besides the skateboarding park, the other immediate thing that takes your attention at the venue, is this long and large graffiti. Graffiti is something I had never seen in India. There on the walls, I grew up seeing movie, lottery, circus and political party posters, which would be later chewed away by a wandering goat. Once, I helped a friend in India put up such posters for a rock show. I remember spending a good part of the night choosing the ideal wall space, way past midnight, applying liquid rice on to the back of the large poster and then pasting them on the wall. And that’s why the goat eats them. They like that rice layering behind the posters. How did they ever find this out? Some walls already had many poster and sometimes, we would stick them on top of an old poster.  Anyways, the first time I ever saw a graffiti was when I was living in Sydney many years ago. In my suburban train rides, one would see plenty of art work all along the walls by the side of rail tracks. And I am a big fan of wall paintings, so I was happy to have taken the above snap. By the way, the header I have above for my blog is also a wall painting from a temple in Sri Vrindhavan dham. Any guess which temple it is from? 

Behold the venue !

Behold the venue !

This is the venue where we would do the last and final show - a basketball court. And that’s why I thought, if we were at the right place. I was expecting a grand old Victorian building by the beach side or perhaps even a town hall. But never did I expect to be in a basketball court to share spiritual knowledge. How are we to turn this into a theatre? Where will the lights go? Where are the changing rooms? What about sound? How are we going to get a spiritual ambiance to the whole place?

In the above picture, you can see that we have just started to put up the chairs. We had to carry a set of 10 chairs from outside and bring them in. It was heavy carrying them but I was surprised the speed with which the devotees managed to put about 350 of them out. 

Voila !! - The stage as it is

Voila !! - The stage as it is

And this how it looked, when we returned from the beach tour ! It was beautiful. How did they manage to do all this so quickly and neatly? Dominic and his team mates were the reason. By the way, his team were the same set of people who would get on to the stage in a few hours for their performance. Hard work!

Before I forget, one of the highlights of the evening was the fantastic prasadam that 2 devotees had prepared. One was a superb sandwich in home made bread, prepared by Dominic’s wife, Rajeswari. And the other was a feast prepared by a devotee family from Fiji or Mauritius, whose names escapes me at the moment. This was probably the only time during the day when we were completely silent. After a 2.5 hour beach harinam, nothing like a tasty feast. Yumm !!! I couldn’t take a photo of this session because I was concentrating on my eating. Sorry folks! 

Team meeting

Team meeting

It was nice to see the entire crew being called for a team meeting. The briefing session reminded everyone about the final touches required for a perfect event management and how motivated we must continue to be, in-spite of it being the last show. I think, this is an important frame of mind to be in. No matter how many times we tell something we believe in or how many times we might put up a good show, there is always a first time for someone out there. So, we must always present our philosophy, our events etc as if it was the very first time we have ever done it and ensure that people have a grand time. 

The audience starts to arrive

The audience starts to arrive

Slowly, people began to creep in. They bought their tickets, collected the program schedule, spoke to a few devotees, took some snaps with them and then slowly wandered in to take a seat. The show started on time. I am not going to spend much time in explaining each event since this was already covered in our Fitzroy event, last week. I had finished that post, apologizing to you all for the lack of good photos. I had cursed myself then for not having a quality camera. I promised that for the 2010 show, I would have a better one. But Krishna had other ideas. He got to me to another show within a week and equipped with a new camera. So, I am just putting a snap of each performance here and I will see you at the end. 

The opening piece - some kirtans

The opening piece - some kirtans

Even louder - Manipur Drummers

Even louder - Manipur Drummers

A stylish dance number

A stylish dance number

The perfect position - Yoga

The perfect position - Yoga

A kshatriya ready to protect - with a steel rod

A kshatriya ready to protect - with a steel rod

The heavenly dance - Bharatanatyam

The heavenly dance - Bharatanatyam

Just surrender unto Me - The Gita

"Just surrender unto Me" - The Gita

Sharing the spiritual wisdom - His Holiness Indradyumna Swami Maharaj

Sharing the spiritual wisdom - His Holiness Indradyumna Swami Maharaj

Uniting with Godhead - The Shyam Dance

Dancing with the Supreme - The Shyam Dance

The Final Kirtan

The Final Kirtan

And the show came to another end. The lights went out, the hall lights came on, people arose from their chairs. Many looked around for something more to do. The volunteers guided them to the end of the room where we had set up a book stall.

Busy at the book stalls

Busy at the book stalls

Now is the time to enquire

"Now is the time to enquire"

As books were being sold, questions being answered by HH Indradyumna Swami, the performers and other volunteering devotees had a strict deadline from Dominic prabhu to get the venue back to the state we first found it in. And we were to do this quickly, systematically and neatly.

Time to pack up

Time to pack up

Rand (not in photo), a young Australian, was responsible for overseeing the usage of the sports facility. He belonged to the local community and perhaps this was the first time, he had ever laid his eyes on the Hare Krishnas. He is not in the above picture but he was amazed with the way we did our work with so much enthusiasm and care. He had also come during the show and I had caught him leaning against the wall the whole time, watching everything unfold in front of him. I am sure he will pursue Krishna Consciousness in many many years to come. He still needs more time, I think to enjoy the Torquay surf and the young Australian life. 

10pm - Plenty of time for a basketball game!!

10:30 pm - Plenty of time for a basketball game!!

That’s it. The next 1.5 hours we drove back to Melbourne. Everyone felt that they had done their best to put up a good show. The crowd turn out wasn’t spectacular but we did get around 150, I think. They all sat through the entire evening glued to what was happening on stage. For sure, it was the first time they had ever witnessed such an event. During the show, I did feel that the people were a bit hesitant and withdrawn with their applauding. I just couldn’t feel the energy from the crowd that I felt at Fitzroy that attracted 500+ and another one at St. Kilda that brought in a whooping 850, which I couldn’t attend but my devotee friends called it spectacular. To me, the crowd here were either conservative or shy. There were also instances when parents let their kids play right in front of the stage, making noise just when the important lecture was going on. I think we should take up an extra room and run it as a child care centre by a volunteering devotee during any shows or lectures. This way, the parents, the lecturer or the performers will not get disturbed.

But what mattered was that the people came, gave us a chance, they saw, they listened and they bought the books. Its important that the Hare Krishnas penetrate more and more into the interior and adjoining centres around major cities. And this event will go a long way in guaging the effectiveness of the efforts put in. Anyways, I  am certain that those who attended will remember this day for a very long time and will expect us back at Torquay next year without fail. They will come back changed and ready. And we will come back even more experienced and perhaps get the town hall next time :) …if they have one that is.

      

by 9days8nights at January 30, 2009 02:34 PM

Syamesvari dd : It is what it is

This is my third and final year of Psychology. I am up to eyeballs in psychology textbooks, notes and assignments and, well, I've had quite enough of the stuff.
I confess to being intrigued by the workings of the human mind. Why do we do what we do when we do it? Many people are interested in having that question answered - maybe to better understand themselves and/or to better understand and help those around them.

I had a very different idea of what my psychology classes would be like when I first began working on my degree 2 years ago. I thought that it would give me a solid answer to my 'why-do-we-do-what-we-do-when-we-do-it' question. It hasn't.

Instead every topic is surrounded by theories - many, many theories - each with limitations, advantages, disadvantages, capabilities, strengths and weaknesses. For a simple topic such as motivation, I have studied at least nine different theories - Maslow, McClellands Needs Theory, Herzbergs two facto theory, the goal setting theory, etc, etc.
There is no one theory that is absolutely correct. No one theory that proves the absolute truth behind different subject matters. Instead one scholar puts forth a theory, it is accepted as the truth for some time, only to have another scholar come forward disputing his/her theory and putting forward his own. Nothing lasts very long in the psychology world.

Actually it seems like a whole lot of speculation.

But it has made me realise and appreciate one thing:
There is only one place we can look to in order to understand the workings of the mind - scripture. There are no theories, limitations or weaknesses to what Srila Prabhupada puts forward in his books. It is what is. Bas. Prabhpada has not taken something from the Bhgavatam, disqualified certain aspects of it and then built upon what was left of it. No. It is what it always has been - the absolute truth.

I know that Sita Pati Prabhu is arguing whether Krsna Consciousness should be referred to as a science, and I'm not nearly scholarly enough to get into that. But whatever it is, I am glad that it is absolute and 'as it is'. No speculation, no attempts at logic, no conflicting theories. Rather it the simple, uncomplicated, deep and meaningful truth.

by Syamesvari (noreply@blogger.com) at January 30, 2009 12:19 PM

On the Web : Institute condemns deportation of Hare Krishna leader from Kazakhstan

Hare KrishnaWashington, DC, Jan. 29, 2009-The Institute on Religion and Public Policy condemns the Jan. 27 deportation of the religious leader of the International Society of Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON), B. B. Govinda Swami, from Kazakhstan.

by Administrator at January 30, 2009 12:16 PM

Dandavats.com : Smiling Flowers

Karnamrita das: Gray winter skies frigid wet outside Archana sings prayers the fire blazes warmth. Beholding Radha Gopinatha uplifting spiritual beauties they kindly glance to bless everyone.

by Administrator at January 30, 2009 10:14 AM

Dandavats.com : Recession – Adversity or Opportunity

From BTG India: The title of book promises to turn this grim crisis into a bright chance, but, as the pages unfold, it presents not a prescription to money making—as the title might have suggested—but a deeper perspective of personal growth.

by Administrator at January 30, 2009 10:12 AM

Ananda Subramanian, Iowa, USA : Is it about science or scientific methods?

I was following the blog post by Sitapati Das prabhu. He asserts that Krishna Consciousness is a comprehensive metaphysical system and not necessarily scientific especially if modern scientists question “science of self realization” as pseudo-science.

Here is my 2 cents.

I personally agree and disagree. First of all, we have to be clear in what we say. Science simply put is a body of knowledge. It can range from solving my health problem to the problem of birth and death. Therefore depending on the knowledge, it can be mundane or transcendental. For anyone to solve a problem, it needs a systematic analysis of the problem per se. This way as we study we will gather knowledge. Knowledge, therefore in my opinion, is not a patented property or an exclusive right of modern scientists. It is true for all. In this sense, Krishna Consciousness is scientific because it is a comprehensive body of knowledge intended to solve a problem – problem of birth, death, old age and disease. No other religion or metaphysics can clearly define the problem and give a solution as Krishna Consciousness gives; therefore, Krishna Consciousness is pure science.

There is, however, a difference. The difference is in methods of enquiry. In other words, scientific research methods differ for Krishna Consciousness and modern science. This is where from a modern scientist purview, Krishna Consciousness becomes a pseudo-science. The research methods employed by Krishna Conscious people are not the same as that employed by modern scientists. Depending on the scientific method, we obtain different evidence and results. Above this, we have the interpretation of the results (evidence/data). Even within the scientific field, a same problem can be approached differently (meaning using different and valid research methods) and obtain completely contradicting evidences and results. Are they any less scientific….No! It is just the methods of research and analysis differs. Similarly, Krishna Consciousness is no less scientific (methodical) just the research method (enquiry) is different…but that does not mean the knowledge obtained is less valid or that this knowledge is an exclusive property of a group of people. It is there for everyone to test and employ.

Krishna Consciousness is, thus, science from the standpoint of obtaining knowledge (and problem solving) but psuedoscience from modern scientists perspective as it does not conform to their commonly accepted practices of scientific research and research methods. Both follow a clear method that can be tested and verified by one and all. If scientists are so proud of their methods of research and fail to accept other methods as less scientific, then in my opinion, they are no more religiously and blindly attached to their methods than any mundane religion.

Today, scientific culture is very exclusive to a group of elite thinkers at least this is what the scientists have successfully created - a fortified invisible wall where only the elite can pass through thus making the inhabitants within the wall proud of their intellectual status. Because of this, any other type of knowledge obtained from other verifiable methods is just not good enough for these people!

Therefore the difference between science and pseudo-science is not one of widely accepted practices (research methods) but one of true knowledge. Scientists who reject knowledge just because it does not conform to their common practice I think are pseudo-scientists as they are rejecting knowledge which may be far superior to their own!

Science and methods of science are intricately woven together yet mutually exclusive.

Hare Krishna

by ananda (noreply@blogger.com) at January 30, 2009 10:09 AM

Krishna Consciousness & Ecological Awareness : Ecuador Extends Rights to Ecosystems


By Kate Wilson, The New York Times

A few months after Lloyd reported on the Swiss government’s conclusion that plants have rights, the Ecuadorian population went one step further and voted to change their constitution to proclaim that nature has “the right to the maintenance and regeneration of its vital cycles, structure, functions and evolutionary processes.”

The New York Times felt that the Ecuadorian concept of plants’ rights was significant enough to include it in their 8th Annual Year in Ideas list. Enquire further to find out what this could mean for conservation efforts in the South American nation.

Writing in the New York Times, Clay Risen explains this radical concept thusly:

The precise scope of nature’s rights is unclear. Referring to Pachamama, an indigenous deity whose name roughly translates as “Mother Universe,” the text puts less emphasis on defending specific species than on the rights of ecosystems writ large. And it is uncertain how, exactly, a country as poor as Ecuador can protect those rights — though observers expect to see a raft of new lawsuits against oil and gas companies.

 

As Risen notes, it remains to be seen if ecosystems will become protected because of the constitutional changes, but what is clear is that the local population thinks it’s worth a try. Almost 70% of Ecuadorians voted in favor of protecting nature in this method.

Ecuador drafted the changes with the help of the U.S. based Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund. Along with it’s work in Ecuador, the Fund “has assisted more than a dozen local municipalities with drafting and adopting local laws recognizing Rights of Nature.” The basis of these rights “change the status of ecosystems from being regarded as property under the law to being recognized as rights-bearing entities.”

With a world economy, partially-based on the sanctity of property rights, in a nosedive it’s possible that radical ideas like this will take hold. We’ll watch with cautious optimism that other nations will follow the Ecuadorian lead to respect and protect our interconnected planet.

      

by environmentkrishna at January 30, 2009 10:08 AM

Japa Group : A Loving Offering To Krsna

Hare Krsna everyone. Hope your week is being blessed by the Lord's association. My last post was talking about surrender and I would like to continue on this topic which I feel we all have to learn from it.
H.H. Sacinandana Swami in one of his articles about this topic said - "Whenever Krishna tests us He remains nearby, hoping we will become wise enough to turn to Him. But He is aware that many souls take their time to surrender. "We usually surrender completely when we trust the person, when we are sure this person will protect us in any situation and will do it in a way that we will get out of the situation safe. In order to have this trust we must have developed a relationship with this person also and know this person so well that we can put our lives in this person's hands. I like the words from Uddhava, Krsna's dear associate "My dear Lord, for one who is being tormented on this terrible path of birth and death and is constantly overwhelmed by the threefold miseries, I do not see any possible shelter other than Your two lotus feet, which are just like a refreshing umbrella that pours down shower of delicious nectar.” (Srimad-Bhagavatam 11.19.9).
From these statements we see that through a deep relationship with Krsna, Uddhava knows Him as the only shelter and the only who can save him from the miseries of this world.
Our daily japa is the most perfect time to relish the Lord's association, we can develop this relationship everyday. We have already learned and noticed Krsna has all opulences and that He is the Supreme, when we put Him as the center of our lives we feel His presence more and more, and will be able to appreciate He reciprocating with us.
Making efforts to chant nicely in order to develop this loving relationship gives us strength, because we can notice we are certainly protected and in every situation the Lord will be by our side, even when tests come He will be there to give us the intelligence to overcome them and when our strength ends, that's when we are hopeless, we take more shelter of Him and see we really depend on the Lord to make our plans His plans, or make His plans become our plans.
Let's take advantage of our time with Krsna and offer to Him our best, concentrating and making our japa as a loving offering, the service of the day and then we will relish the nectar of His love which is our only refreshing shelter.

Hope your chanting is nice and you are able to realise the Lord's association.

your servant,

Aruna dd

by Aruna (noreply@blogger.com) at January 30, 2009 10:05 AM

1970 January 30 : "For the first part of Krishna Book we want 52 pictures and 400 text pages - so whether they are complete? Mr. George Harrison has contributed the entire cost and we are going to publish it very soon."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1970

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 30, 2009 09:16 AM

1975 January 30: "Your plan for preaching on the campuses, it is a very good idea. Do it. I know that you are practical, instead of talking 100 times and doing nothing. That I want."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1975

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 30, 2009 09:15 AM

1975 January 30: "Krishna has given you a special duty, so carry it very faithfully and enthusiastically. The more you preach, the more you become recognized by Krishna and the more He gives you intelligence how to preach."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1975:

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 30, 2009 09:15 AM

1975 January 30: "Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu accepted the Bharata-bhumi, but at least one person from Bharata-bhumi has accepted this movement and handed it over to you - so see that this desire takes practical shape."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1975:

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 30, 2009 09:14 AM

1975 January 30: "America has got immense potential. So, do service to your countrymen, as well as Krishna simultaneously. Your country has been glorified on account of her children like you."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1975

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 30, 2009 09:13 AM

1969 January 30: "Everywhere you are it is the same because Krishna is there. All places belong to Krishna, and wherever we get the chance for serving Him, that land is our God-gifted land."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1969

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 30, 2009 09:11 AM

1967January 30: "Our yesterdays function was very successful. There were about 1500 or more audience and all of them chanted and danced continually for one hour and fifteen minutes. I came back at 11-30 at night."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1967

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 30, 2009 09:10 AM

1966 January 30: "Too much snow falling today and the wind blowing very severely. So I could not go to Dr. Mishra's apartment for meals. Some how or other I managed my bath and meals in the studio. Purchased milk and butter."
Prabhupada Journal :: 1966

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 30, 2009 09:08 AM

David Haslam, UK : The benefits of a vegetarian diet grows

In an small opening notation found in the free magazine from ASDA (a popular supermarket in the UK) had the heading Meat-Free Mondays It referred to an article by the UN at notes that having one meat-free day a week will make an effective difference to greenhouse gas emissions and habitat destruction as nearly a fifth [...]

by WordPress at January 30, 2009 08:51 AM

Kirtans in Oxford, UK : Kirtan by Candlelight.


January's candle-lit kirtan had a special quality. A strong spiritual atmosphere rose up as the large gathering sang out heartily. This was a happy ending to a near disaster! Mariola, who was to have been our lead singer for the day came down with 'flu that morning, and it was only thanks to Ranchor's stepping into the breach at the eleventh hour that we had a kirtan at all! Thank you Ranchor. And thanks to everyone who came and made it so good.

It seemed easier, somehow, to focus on the chanting in the softer lighting. The evening ended with delicious pizza, fudge and peppermint tea.

One chanter wrote to us: "That was a wonderful kirtan yesterday! I really liked the candle-lit atmosphere and the lovely mood. Ranchor is perfect for Oxford. And it was wonderful to see so many new faces. I thought the fir-cone decor was chic and seasonal and cosy and Cathedral-like all at the same time."

Mariola is better now and plans to be with us in February.

Many thanks to Claire for these beautiful, Rembrandtish photos! (They get bigger and better if you click on them) . Podcasts coming soon!

by Kirtaniya (noreply@blogger.com) at January 30, 2009 08:30 AM

Club 108, New Vrndavan : The Stepping Stones to Real Cow Protection (Part 2)

The Stepping Stones to Real Cow Protection
Separating the Rhetoric from the Reality
An Interview with Tapahpunjah Dasa of The Small Farm Training Center
as reported by Bhakta Chris Fici

Q: What about privatization of the food supply? Why can’t householders who own their own farmland grow and sell to the temple?

A: Privatization sounds great on paper but if it’s that simple, why hasn’t some enterprising household couple launched it? As a farmer, I know why…. the vagaries of weather, the short growing season, the costs of labor, the costs of mechanization (if you can’t hire labor), the unpredictability of good help, the deer problem, crop failures. etc.

The only entity who can rebound from these vulnerabilities is the temple. I can name four land owning families in New Vrindaban who courageously attempted to keep a
family cow and failed because it made no economic sense. Had they been subsidized they may have succeeded. The subsidy I’m referring to is not a welfare handout. It’s a compact of trust between the temple management and those devotees inspired to work and live on the land. It’s a subsidy for supporting young devotees who require land and encouragement to get started.

Q: It seems that you’re painting a picture that incorporates both decentralization and guided centralized control. Can the two strategies function simultaneously?

A: Yes, both systems must co-exist. On one hand, we’re energizing the family unit by creating “farmetts.” “We’ll give you a cow, the feed, the bales of hay for winter and you keep the milk to drink and the manure for your garden.” On the other hand, the temple is functioning like a ksatriya landlord, safeguarding the interest of the institution. This is what’s meant by “the stepping stones to real cow protection.” Without the temple acting as a loving, empowering parent, self-sufficient culture will not evolve. Our strategy should be to teach the value of cow protection by first coaching a family in fundamental life support skills, e.g. organic gardening, that culminates in a natural yearning to keep animals..

Q: If subsidized land and living arrangements succeeded as a working model, what would be the positive effects on a rural devotee community?

A: It would have an immediate short term effect of opening up settlement for younger devotees. What a morale booster that would be! Imagine if we could legitimately say that the bhoga used in our college food programs, vegetarian cooking classes, Sunday feasts and offering to the Deities was all grown by devotee hands on devotee worked lands. Right now our reputation as environmentally conscientious people who “walk-their-talk is tarnished by the abuse of the yukta-vairagya principle. .

Q: The yukta-vairagya principle was often cited by Srila Prabhupada to explain his use of modern amenities like airplanes and Dictaphones. How is this concept being abused within ISKCON?

A: Yukta-vairagya has become like a magical wand—just wave it and poof!!.. you’re immunized from anyone questioning environmentally unfriendly management decisions. The philosophical principle of seeing everything as potentially useful in Krishna’s service is beyond reproach. It’s the application that has disgraced us as it applies to self-sufficient living. Besides derailing our preaching, its misuse numbs us to the order of the spiritual master.

Q: As a spokesperson for The Small Farm Training Center, you attend agricultural conferences, speak at universities and host students visiting New Vrindaban. How do they perceive the movement?

A: They see us as quaint …but irrelevant . Instead of being guardians of the mode of goodness, we’re perceived as philosophical chauvinists. I recently spoke at a Quaker high school in Ohio.The students visited New Vrindaban on three occasions last winter and participated in a series of min-workshop presentations ranging from yoga to Deity worship. On their final visit the teacher phoned ahead and asked me if it would be o.k. for the kids to bring their own plates because they objected to eating off of Styrofoam. Trying to change the subject, I asked her what the students thought about subjects like reincarnation and karma. She replied, “ I don’t know, they can’t get past the fact that you serve prasadam on Styrofoam plates…that’s all they talk about.” In the minds of those teenagers, we’re hypocrites.

Q: One unique feature which distinguishes us as more than just secular vegetarians or animal rights activists is the message of cow protection. Are we effectively getting that message across?

A: Cow protection resonates with our Hindu constituency but rings a little hollow with Western people. To use a crude analogy from the card game poker, “it’s not our lead card.” Vegetarianism—and more specifically, vegetarianism guided by spiritual motives—is our lead card. According to the U.S. government’s estimates, 1 out of every 200 adolescents in a America are actively vegetarian. (Center for Disease Control study). That statistic should send ecstatic shivers down the spines of every ISKCON North American temple president. To be honest, we’re a little cow myopic. We need to gradually introduce the value of mother cow rather than philosophically thunking people over the head. For example, connecting a person’s personal health concerns to the environmental health of the Earth’s life support systems is comprehensible compared to evangelically insisting that cows are God’s favorite animal. Preaching directly about cows smacks of elitism because people suspect that your real agenda is converting them into cow loving Hindus. In our rural communities, we make a similar mistake by telling entry level homesteaders to get a milk cow and an ox team. Introducing new people to sustainability by encouraging them to “get a cow” is like introducing a three year old child to bicycle riding by sitting them on a Harley Davidson motorcycle.

Q: I’ve sometimes heard you use the phrase, “No spirituality, No sustainability!” when talking to visiting colleges classes. What do you mean by that?

A: The transcendent fact is that there is no such thing as “sustainability” in the material world. Everything is subject to the devastating time factor. The only true sustainability is our relationship with guru and Gauranga. Without a spiritual motivation, however, even the best secular plans reinforce the illusion that the material world is fixable. Our Krishna conscious gift to the worldwide debate on sustainability is the message of transcendence.

Q: You mentioned connecting the dots between spirituality and sustainability. What advise do you have for devotees eager to spread Krishna consciousness through the medium of ecological activism?

A: Be humble and learn to speak the language of environmental kinship. Last February, I conducted a workshop at Penn State University before 100 participants entitled, Bad Karma Is Not Sustainable: Farming As If Your Next Life Depended on It. Many of the attendees were organic meat producers. I started the talk by apologizing. I assured them that my purpose was not to sit in judgment of them. I begged permission to share an ancient secret of sustainability that would have a great impact on their personal destinies. For the next 90 minutes they sat in rapt attention hearing about the soul, the nature of embodiment, karma, and varnashram. I even dared to recite the seven co-conspirators in the killing of an innocent animal. You could hear a pin drop. I felt Srila Prabhupada speaking through me. The point is this: People of all persuasions are saying the same thing: THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM IS SPIRITUAL. Devotees are uniquely qualified by the grace of Srila Prabhupada to define the cause and effect interplay between lost spirituality and world scale environmental degradation. Devotees are uniquely positioned to explain why spirituality should be the motivating force behind care of God’s creation. Because of the clarity and authoritative nature of Srila Prabhupada’s books, we—and only we—can articulate how the laws of karma govern. No one else has that information. What’s missing is a working model.

Q: I’m sure you’re aware that many ISKCON leaders have expressed a renewed interest in farm communities and self sufficiency. At this year’s GBC meetings in Mayapur it will be a key agenda item. What are your thoughts about that?

A: I’m encouraged. Radhanath Swami and Devamrita Swami have been very supportive of how I’m trying to develop The Small Farm Training Center. My hope is that their good intentions translate into inspired capital investment in self-sufficient infrastructure such as greenhouses, root cellars, grain silos and the like. Last summer we began construction on a combination workshop pavilion and wood fired baking oven. Winter wheat is planted and we’re balancing our vegetable production with the growing of grains. New Vrindaban is Srila Prabhupada’s first farm. We have land, labor , management and plenty of vision. What’s missing is capital. Capital is the lubricant which makes it all flow like nectar towards Lord Krishna’s lotus feet.

by Club 108 (noreply@blogger.com) at January 30, 2009 08:00 AM

Subuddhi Krishna dasa, Chicago, USA : Srimad Bhagavatam Analogy - 56


Even if one is liberated, he nevertheless accepts the body he has received according to his past karma. Without misconceptions, however, he regards his enjoyment and suffering due to that karma the way an awakened person regards a dream he had while sleeping. He thus remains steadfast and never works to achieve another material body under the influence of the three modes of material nature.

Srimad Bhagavatam - Canto 5 Chapter 1 Verse 56


by Subuddhi Krishna das, Chicago (noreply@blogger.com) at January 30, 2009 07:13 AM

H.G. Sankarshan das Adhikari, USA : Friday 30 January 2009--Revival of the Happy Bhagavat Dharma Days

The time has come for the world's leaders to realize and honestly admit that they do not know how to solve the world's problems. But the difficulty is that for their own selfish purposes they are attached to the power, prestige, and perks that go along with their posts. Hence they are not willing to give up their precious posts and hang up on to them...

by course@ultimateselfrealization.com at January 30, 2009 03:30 AM

Sita-pati dasa, AU : It's Da Science

Eric suggests referring to Krishna Consciousness as "a spiritual path".

Obviously the situation and the audience influence the most appropriate thing to say and to what depth of explanation you need to go.

My personal observation, in some of the circles that I move in, is that Science is starting to defend its brand vigorously.

Thinking about it a bit more, between grinding out xml files, you could think of the phrase "Science of Self Realization" like "Rolls-Royce of X".

Read Science as "Shizzle", as in "Yo Dawg, it's the shizzle" - so "Yo Dawg, it's da science!"

So it would be like "The Shizzle of Self-Realization", as in "The Topmost/Best of Self-Realization".

And that's basically the intention, and reason Science strikes back to stop itself from being turned into a generic term, like Band Aid or Xerox.

"Spiritual" beats "Religion". "Metaphysical" is pretty left brain, as is "Science" (watch out - trademarked!). It depends on who you are talking to.

"Systematic, comprehensive, consistent, fully documented" is a tongue-twister, as Eric points out. You hold this in reserve and don't use it as the "catch phrase" - but if you understand these points and can illustrate and justify them, you'll be well placed to explain why "of Self Realization processes Krishna Consciousness is the Shizz".

by sitapati at January 30, 2009 02:29 AM

January 29, 2009

Kurma dasa, AU : Hot Town, Summer in the City

hot town:

If you've been having problems connecting to this blog site since yesterday, here's the reason: It was 44 degrees celcius yesterday in Melbourne (that's over 111 Fahrenheit!), and the poor machines that make this blog happen were getting very hot under their electronic collars. So thanks for your patience.

by Kurma at January 29, 2009 11:20 PM

Bharatavarsa.net : Prabhupada letters

1967 January 29: "Enormous, pulsing pictures of Krsna were in perfect sync with the beat of the mantra. Srila Prabhupada stood and began to dance with his arms raised, the crowd was completely absorbed in chanting."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1967

January 29, 2009 11:20 PM

Bharatavarsa.net : Prabhupada letters

1970 January 29: "In our Temple all Europeans, Indians, Mohammedans, Christians, everyone is welcome. And our presentation is so nice that everyone will be attracted to accept it because we are preaching love of God."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1970

January 29, 2009 11:20 PM

Bharatavarsa.net : Prabhupada letters

1972 January 29: "The mayavadi take Devotional service to be maya; therefore we call them mayavadi. You should never, however, accept the mayavadi philosophy, at any time."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1972

January 29, 2009 11:20 PM

Manorama dasa : Twitter frissítések - 2009-01-29

  • nocsak, a magyar twittert elöntötte a blip.fm? :) #
  • hopsz. twitter plugin problem… nem tudtam, hogy floodolok :) sorry. :S #
  • Gyűlésen ülök. A téma, hogy mennyire aktuális a Krisna-tudat manapság? Hogyan lehet a régi üzenetet a mai kor nyelvén megfogalmazni? #

by Mrd at January 29, 2009 10:59 PM

H.H. Bhaktimarg Swami : Monday, January 26th, 2009

Buxton, Guyana

It was in Buxton a year ago today that racial tension struck hard in this small bedroom community of Georgetown. The army was forced to step in to resolve a merciless shooting of children in their sleep. Things have relaxed somewhat since then. It was only appropriate that the Padayatra (festival on foot) was initiated today and under the theme of peace and unity. The response was generally favourable.

As a classy shaped cart was pulled by foot-festival-participants, people came out onto their balconies to view. It was not exactly like balconies of the aristocracy. Rather, many homes are built on stilts. The homes are the balconies. Some folks actually came to the roadside to receive some small token of sweets. It was not just humans that expressed excitement. Cows, horses, goats, and pigs picked up on the resonating sounds of drums, cymbals, and chants. In that sense humans and the fury domesticates share space quite closely in Guyana.

A portion of our route occupied one lane of the two-lane coastal highway. Exposure of the exotic cart was great as it enshrined the glowing images of Caitanya and Nitai, two revered visionaries of medieval India who demonstrated no differences as to one’s ancestral background. In other words, their message of goodwill, bhakti – the devotional path, was an open door pathway for all. In addition to the Padayatra program, Rupa from New York and I tackled 20 kilometres on foot headed east of Georgetown. It is the third country that I’m fixed to walk across after Canada and Ireland. My dream is to roam the globe.

20km

by Bhaktimarga Swami (noreply@blogger.com) at January 29, 2009 10:18 PM

H.H. Bhaktimarg Swami : Tuesday, January 27th, 2009



Lusignan, Guyana

Just east of Georgetown is the town of Lusignaan where the second night of padayatra was staged. Many people along the processional route expressed that they recall similar events in the late eighties when the first Krishna pioneers of Guyana such as Bhutadi, Agrani, Paramatma, and others hosted this main event. What made tonight’s event major was the attendance of prominent local Hindu pundits as well as the country’s acting president, the Honourable Samuel Hind. I particularly liked one pandit’s definition of ego. Pandit Prakash saw it as an acronym to “Edging God Out”. Honourable Hind recognized the work of organizers for their effort to thrust the notion of peace in a world of social disturbance.

The second day of padayatra had increased in size and vibrancy. Response were good as was my early morning walk with Rupa eastbound on the main highway. We are talking about simple sweet folks here who are not burdened with many of the distractions of the developed world. People are so quick to wave a hand and make the address, “Ram Ram” or “Sita Ram” or “Haribol”. Black folks express these terms as do Hindus.

Spirituality is very doable in this country of limited population (700,000) and where soft-heartedness is prevalent. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe they like seeing their swamis out and about. In any event, piety is a feature of this north shore South American land. They turn up for an event on a Tuesday night which promotes walking for spirituality sake. I’m pleased.

20 Km

by Bhaktimarga Swami (noreply@blogger.com) at January 29, 2009 10:16 PM

H.H. Bhaktimarg Swami : Wednesday, January 28th, 2009

Mon Repos, Guyana

Guyana boasts making the best rums in the world packaged as El Dorado. A beverage like this couldn’t entice Rupa (my traveling partner again) and I even on the steamiest of days. When we trekked near the massive distillery a worker invited us past the security and into the lobby for a stretch-the-leg-and-take-it-easy-break. We were moved by their hospitality and the soft drinks that were cold and pleasing.

We also hear that Guyana has some of the best gold deposits in the world. It has its best and worst. So what’s worse? Rupa and I did encounter the meanest ants, perhaps the nastiest the globe has to offer. A few mere seconds of mistakenly standing on one of their hills hidden by foliage gave me the experience of a lifetime. Rupa also had an incredible “ouch” session as the pesky things crawled up his legs. Despite dealing with the unknown on ground level my feet begged for comfort so I submitted to a barefoot stretch while carefully watching each step.

As we made our way en-route towards the airport, Rupa and I made it a point to distribute flyers as we met folks in transit to work or school. It seems the whole country is “abuzz” on the Padayatra festival. The numbers increase each night as national television and various media outlets inform the public of the foot-and-song festival. I took the liberty to parade marshal the procession. Many participants are habituated to spontaneous performance but I’ll beg to differ on this approach and go for order, focus, and some regimentation. I believe our guru, Srila Prabhupada, favours a much more melodious and structured approach.

28 Km walking / 6 Km in procession

by Bhaktimarga Swami (noreply@blogger.com) at January 29, 2009 10:14 PM

ISKCON Melbourne, AU : Daily Class - Gangesvara Prabhu

Srimad Bhagavatam 11.5.42 - Sva-pada-mulam- the lotus feet of Krsna, the shelter of the devotees. Feel fully protected in devotional service.

by Timothy Mcleod at January 29, 2009 09:22 PM

Bharatavarsa.net : Bhakti Vikasa Swami: Artificial never successful

Just like Visvamitra Muni. There were many instances. He was a great king and he wanted to be yogi. And he went to forest, gave up his kingdom, went to forest. And he was meditating very seriously, and Indra, king of heaven, he sent some society girls of heavenly planet, Menaka. And she came. She began to dance before the closed-eyes yogi, and as soon as he heard, “Oh, there is very nice female voice and dancing,” and as soon as he opened, he became captivated, embraced her. So everything gone. You see? So sense gratification, you cannot stop artificially. Nirbandhah krsna-sambandhe. Therefore we advised our students, either boys and girls, that if you have... Of course, if you are serious in Krsna consciousness, you forget all these nonsense sense gratification, but still if you are disturbed, all right, get yourself married. Live peacefully, husband and wife, and both be engaged in Krsna consciousness. Gradually, you’ll forget, both husband and wife. Don’t try artificially. Artificially you’ll never be successful. But if you can avoid it by advance and strong Krsna consciousness...

Bhagavad-gita 3.6-10 -- Los Angeles, December 23, 1968

January 29, 2009 09:11 PM

Sita-pati dasa, AU : Counter Strategy 1: Don't use the term "Science"

As a counter-strategy to the Smackdown on the Science of Self-Realization, just don't use the term "science" to describe Krishna Consciousness.

Krishna Consciousness is not scientific.

Two types of "not scientific" systems are described in the wikipedia entry on pseudo-science.

One type is "pseudo-scientific" - not scientific systems that try to pass themselves off as science to gain credibility.

The other are metaphysical systems that are outside the scope of science. This is in fact what Krishna Consciousness is.

So rather than describe it as "a science", it's safer and more accurate to describe it as "a comprehensive, consistent, systematic, and fully documented metaphysical system".

I think most devotees would say: "That's what I mean when I say that it's a science".

The difference is that when you spell it out like that, you do not open yourself up to the "Dawkins Pseudo-science Smack down".

by sitapati at January 29, 2009 09:08 PM

Balabhadra dasa : Speed Bumps in Life's Journey

On January 13th about 6:30 PM, Lakshmi was walking over to her house after working at her computer doing some ISCOWP paper work. She was only about 100 yards from our house when she slipped on some ice and fell, breaking her wrist. Rudra, our farm dog, kept pulling her in the direction of our house as she was sobbing and in great pain. I still was not able to drive due to some medical difficulties you read about in previous updates, so I called the neighbor and he took Lakshmi and my wife Chayadevi to the ER at the hospital in Moundsville, about 10 miles away.

Not only were we concerned about the wrist, but Lakshmi was just going into her 5th month of pregnancy so we were worried about the baby.

The wrist was x-rayed and indeed it was broken. The doctor monitored the heart beat of the baby and the baby was alright. They didn’t return home until almost midnight.

Two days later Lakshmi was scheduled for a cast to be put on the broken wrist. Again my wife and Lakshmi were driven to the hospital only to find out that it is a very bad break and that she would need an operation to properly set the broken bone. The operation was set for the next day.

Because of Lakshmi being pregnant it was deemed too dangerous for her to receive general anesthesia as it would adversely affect the baby. The 2 hour operation was done with a local anesthesia and screws were set in her wrist and arm with metal rods holding the bones together above her arm....quite a site to see.

There is no cast, just a gauze dressing which is changed daily and her arm cleaned with Hydrogen Peroxide. Painful and no fun at all for Lakshmi. She is a tough young lady and toughing her way through everything.

Krsna Rupa comes everyday to cook for Lakshmi and do some cleaning for her. Thank you Krsna Rupa. Gintas is driving Lakshmi and myself to our Drs appointments and helps with some errands in town. Thank you Gintas. Chaitanya Bhagavat was driving us around and helping in the barn until he had a hernia operation. Thank you Chaitanya and we pray you recover well.

Laksmi will be out of commission for the next 6 to 8 weeks as that is when the hardware is scheduled to be removed. It is on the right arm and wrist. After that she will still not be able to do as she has before for awhile.

For many years Lakshmi has done our data base, monthly letter update, monthly gift preparation and packaging. Part of her service was to notify donors about their total yearly donations for tax purposes. Needless to say we are running behind on everything in the office. So we humbly ask that you be patient with us and we will get the imformation to you as soon as possible.......hopefully within the next week. Thank you very much.

So, Chayadevi is now taken care of the feed out for the cows and making sure the water troughs are de-iced. Ray, a local friend, comes up every other day to help with the cows as well. Chaydevi is still helping me as well as playing nurse to Lakshmi and trying to keep up with ISCOWP office work. She is definitely going full steam ahead.

I have been seeing an acupuncturist. Slowly but surely the pain in my leg is diminishing. This week I have been able to take short walks around the house without too much pain. Each day seems to be getting better and better, and I am actually doing a little bit around the house to help Chayadevi.

Today I actually drove from our house over to Lakshmi's house and went into the little barn and saw the Brahmans for the 1st time in 2 months. Needless to say I was very excited. The babies were very glad to see me and started licking my hands and face.

The Acupuncturist feels that by mid March I will be able to do some work in the garden department. I have an appointment with the heart Dr. on February 3rd, so no new news on the heart now.

We would like to thank all of you for your kind words, letters, and prayers during these speed bumps in life’s journey. We couldn’t take care of the cows without your support on all levels

by Balabhadra das (noreply@blogger.com) at January 29, 2009 08:53 PM

Sita-pati dasa, AU : How the Smackdown on the Science of Self-Realization works


Rrrr-spect to Richard Dawkins, Oxford Chair for the Public Understanding of Science

Let me show you how the smackdown on the "Science of Self Realization" works. I've been hurting from this for the past year, so let me get it out of my system before I go on to describe the counter strategies I've developed.

Now, the devotee makes the first move, describing to someone how Krishna Consciousness is "scientific" or "a science".

Devotee: The process of Krishna Consciousness is scientific / Krishna Consciousness is a science.
Dawkings acolyte: (either responding or speaking as a third person into a conservation) That's not science / scientific - it's pseudo-science.

Check mate

What does the devotee do here? Agree? Disagree?

With the term "pseudo-science" he's just been chucked in with such quackery as Patent Medicine, either implicitly, or if like my work where discussions will span real and virtual interactions irl and on irc, explicitly by posting that link.

Obviously you can't agree with that. You've just been trashed. Your attempt to give Krishna Consciousness credibility in the mind of the audience has been completely reversed.

However, you can't argue against it either - for in fact, you are the dictionary definition of pseudo-science - "using 'science' as a descriptive term to lend credibility to a process that does not satisfy the criteria for the scientific method".

If you try arguing against this (a losing proposition), you further reinforce your image as a cult member desperately trying to ride on the coat tails of science to lend credibility to your system.

Either way, you're screwed.

If you do try arguing against it, then this is the killing blow:

Dawkins acolyte: (drawing himself up and speaking with the full empowerment of the Acarya Richard Dawkins, Oxford Chair for the Public Understanding of Science) You are deceiving people.

Subtly the terrain has shifted underneath you. You've gone into enemy territory, like Gajendra facing the crocodile in the water, and your attempt to borrow credibility from science has instead resulted in a huge defeat. It's not even a battle that you want to win. Your point is not to redefine the term "science" - it's to demonstrate the value of Krishna Consciousness.

You are no longer discussing Krishna Consciousness. He is saying that you are deceiving people by using the word "science" in this way. It's his ball park, his rules. It's like a trademark infringement case, rather than a bad product review.

Here's the final nail in your coffin:

Yes, that's right folks. We're the ones who gave you the computer and the Internet that you're reading this on.

OK, and this one for good measure:

Of course, the image above carries with it the sense that a person is arguing to inflate their own self-esteem, but many disciples of Dawkins are arguing simply for clarity and truth. There are many dangerous philosophies, products, and processes masquerading as science, and they are duty-bound to defend the public understanding of science. You just got caught in the cross-fire - because you put yourself there.

My advice: don't go there. Counter strategies coming up.

by sitapati at January 29, 2009 08:36 PM

Vrndavana Vinodini dd, Toronto, Canada : Needles and sequins and pins....

As I had mentioned earlier, 2 weeks ago we had finished making outfits for Gauranga/Nitai....here's all of us hard at work!









This is the outfit I was able to make with help from the devotees who sew for Radha Madhava

by Vrndavana Vinodini dd (noreply@blogger.com) at January 29, 2009 07:44 PM

Sita-pati dasa, AU : Krishna Consciousness - the Pseudo Science

A. Scientific: Here is a process. If you follow it and become Krishna conscious then Krishna Consciousness is valid. If you follow it and you don't, then it's not valid.

B. Unscientific: Here is a process. If you follow it and become Krishna conscious then Krishna Consciousness is valid. If you follow it and you don't, then we'll say that you didn't follow it properly (for a nicely-worded example of this see this comment)

Now, B is unscientific. It's not scientific.

That's because it fails the falsifiability criteria needed for the scientific method.

In the mid-20th Century Karl Popper suggested the criterion of falsifiability to distinguish science from non-science. Statements such as "God created the universe" may be true or false, but no tests can be devised that could prove them false, so they are not scientific; they lie outside the scope of science. Popper subdivided non-science into philosophical, mathematical, mythological, religious and/or metaphysical formulations on the one hand, and pseudoscientific formulations on the other...

- Wikipedia entry on Pseudo-science

So it's not scientific, but that's because it's a metaphysical system that deals with things beyond the scope of science. However, when you combine it with "Krishna Consciousness is a science" it becomes pseudo-science.

Pseudoscience is defined as a body of knowledge, methodology, belief, or practice that is claimed to be scientific or made to appear scientific, but does not adhere to the scientific method, lacks supporting evidence or plausibility, or otherwise lacks scientific status. The term comes from the Greek root pseudo- (false or pretending) and "science" (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge").

- Wikipedia entry on Pseudo-science

My wife explained this morning: "It's not science in the modern sense of the word".

OK, like I could say: "Turn right. No, not right in the modern sense of the word. I mean right in the other sense of the word that means left."

It's disingenuous, and that's why pseudo-science gets called out.

The purpose of calling Krishna Consciousness "a science" is nicely summarized by H.H. Hrdayananda Goswami: "Science has a certain prestige in modern society, and because we want what we do to be associated with that prestige we call it a science."

That's the dictionary definition of pseudo-science folks.

Imagine yourself in a public debate with a disciple of Richard Dawkins, where you assert that Krishna Consciousness is scientific, in an attempt to protect its prestige in the minds of the onlookers.

You are wrong, you will be defeated, and you richly deserve it.

I know, because it happened to me a year ago.

Now for many cult members, the normal response would be to go back to headquarters and reinforce your conditioning with other indoctrinated cult members - throwing in a few ad hominem attacks for good measure ("rascal scientists" for example).

However, throwing kicks and punches at shadows back in the karate school just doesn't do it for me. So after being defeated I surrendered to these disciples of Dawkins to learn their kung-fu. Over the last year I have mastered their devastating preying mantis form.

I have also developed counter strategies. Yesterday I successfully deployed one. That's the subject of another post.

by sitapati at January 29, 2009 07:34 PM

Devadeva Mirel, Alachua, USA : Highly Recommended

Jayadeva Das, reporting for Mangala Aroti.


Although it seems he has no interest in a blog feed to Planet Iskcon, there is nothing stopping me from giving a shout out to Jayadeva's blog: A or The (I Don't Remember) Convenient Truth.

Jayadeva and I were former inmates at Sri Gita Nagari Dhama way back before the end of the world happened in 2000. Whew, glad we made it through the apocalypse. When not blogging or thinking about Lord Nityananda, Jayadeva can be found in New Jersey, going to art school, working his j-o-b and being the best darndest step-dad this side of the Raritan River.

His blog is g-o-o-d. Hope you check it out.

(Ooops! And don't forget to check out his little missus' blog...but just don't leave any mean comments about her dog, okay? It's spirit soul, too!)

by Devadeva Mirel (noreply@blogger.com) at January 29, 2009 07:30 PM

Madhava Ghosh dasa, New Vrndavan, USA : Winter Wonderland


This is one of those days I almost wish I had a really good quality camera because it is gorgeous outside, Krishna working as an artist has really done some stunning work.

Of course, one has to rise beyond the bad roads and power outages.  Our power went out after Vidya had heard a report that over 80,000 people were without electricity and they were already saying some won’t have it back until after the Super Bowl which is three days away.  I assumed it might be days but was pleasantly surprised when it came back on after only a few hours.

I went to the temple for lunch yesterday and not long after leaving came to the conclusion I had made a stupid mistake taking to the road on such a day.  Even I, an experienced winter driver, was doing a little slip’n slide if I wasn’t careful which mostly I was, driving as if I had no brakes, tapping them when I did need to use them, which means I drove really slow and made it home safely.

When I went out this morning to take some photos, I saw someone wasn’t so lucky.

truck-in-ditch

Getting past all that though it is beautiful out.

snow-covered-shrubs

It had snowed the day before, then rained in the morning that was turning to ice as it hit that covered everything with its weight. In the afternoon it snowed which stuck to the ice. Good thing bamboo can bend instead of break under the beautiful burden.

bent-bamboo

All of this  made it hard for songbirds to find their natural forage so we are having much higher than normal activity at the bird feeder which is another fun thing to watch.

bird-feeder1

I see as I am posting this the clouds are thinning and the light is better for taking photos but I l will use the ones I have.   If the sun comes out it will be really amazing.

Posted in Cows and Environment      

by Madhava Gosh at January 29, 2009 07:07 PM

Devadeva Mirel, Alachua, USA : Fresh From the Oven: Pumpkin Pie


While some people like to tell you what they're going to eat via their Facebook status updates, I do one better: I photograph it!

Actually, this pie is headed for the freezer and will reemerge the second week of February when we have some friends visiting. Friends with triplets.

But first, it has to cool. It is still "letting off steam" and kind of looks like it is about to erupt (maybe a video would have been more appropriate). The pie will look much more photogenic once it makes it to room temp but I have many other domestic tasks ahead of me...so might as well get the shot over with.

by noreply@blogger.com (Devadeva Mirel) at January 29, 2009 06:04 PM

H.H. Mahavishnu Swami : BBT East Africa


Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama
Rama Hare Hare. All Glories to Sri Guru and Sri Gauranga!  Camp:ISKCONgods_lotus1
Kampala,Uganda. Mob 00254 726210683
(blog:http://mahavishnuswami.wordpress.com)

Dear Naresvara Prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisances! All Glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Thank you for your letter. Its nice to contact you again in this service
relation.

> Your letter was forwarded to me.
>
> Have you done any research in the country to see what kind of entity
> should or can be incorporated? Do they have such a thing as tax exemption
> for religious organisations/publishers?

> If you can get back to me with some info in this regard I will try to help
> you with the documentation.

Thanks.Just now starting the research.

Thank you for your offer of help.I have a feeling this could be the
breakthrough time for producing African language  BBT publications which
have been sorely neglected so far.It is a huge field.In “East Africa”
(Kenya,Tanzania and Uganda) alone there are at least 200 languages out of
which 13 are considered major. But if we count other ajoining countries like
Malawi,Zimbabwe,Zambia,Rwanda etc there  will be hundreds more languages.I
have just learnt that 302  African languages have complete Bibles and
ongoing there are 483  new language Bible translations and 881 languages
have no project for their Bibles. We have a lot of service to do it seems.

I hope you do’nt mind me unloading a bit here. But I have been at fault in
Nepal in the early days.I once enthusiastically tried to produce some new
small books “first time” in Tibetan and Newari languages which are minority
languages up there. My motto was “something is better than nothing” or ” or
least one of Prabhupada’s books should be in this language”. I had no
experience in publishing and translating,so I have every reason to believe
that the translations are very imperfect.I did my  then limited best to find
the “right person” to translate but in fact as far as I know no devotee  has
ever joined because he read one of those books. Those books still gather
dust.I feel a similar thing has been the history of  our translations into
Kiswahili,(the major African language) so far.

Translation and book production has been a kind of lip service hobby for
ISKCON devotees in East Africa rather than an organised serious BBT
endeavour to produce quality books. They have wanted to make a show that
they are trying to preach to the locals. Same in South Africa.Prabhupada had
clearly said that  the Local Preaching should be our priority business*.But
I am sorry to say we shirked that responcibility and became attched to
preaching to the expat Hindu community for obvious reasons.This is the sad
history.Still we here the complaint that the African locals  cannot become
devotees. Or we conveniently say-”The locals prefer English”. Did we ever
consider they might have intelligence and be put off by shoddy publications
with confused philosophy ? Especially the intellectual  community feel
insulted that ISKCON has never taken  the trouble to produce decent quality
books in their local languages.

Fortunately in devotee Haridas Pandit das, (Harold Mhando aged 55),  from
Tanzania we now have someone who is well experienced in all the professional
principles and standards required for good translation and publishing . He
is a recognised expert in Standard Kiswahili in which BBC broadcasts and
Google is presented in .There are about 90 million readers in many African
countries.Now we have a good chance with his advice and assistance to
successfully set up the BBT EA and carry  Srila Prabhupada’s mercy far and
wide in East Africa for the first time. Of course this will depend on
building up a  a team of book distributors too. It is an adventure  which I
relish..

But Haridas Pandit says he would be very embarrassed to  admit that any of
our prievious Kiswahili smallbook stock ( and our recent abortive attempt at
Bhagavad Gita) belongs to  the proposed BBT EA.He feels that they  will do
more harm than good because they are badly designed, virtually
incomprehencible and full of errors . Actually  in Tanzania they have a
Kiswahili standards board  and if a publisher produces substandard books he
is struck off the list of authorised publishers. Of course the word
“Krishna” is definitely there in the books so they may be “better than
nothing” but as far as a publisher’s reputation and standing is concerned
he says that our prievious amateur attempts should  best just be pulped to
cut our losses.

You probably have seen similar unprofessional  attempts at book publication
made by sincere ISKCON devotees in other countries.I am sure this is one of
the reasons why Prabhupada set up the BBT - because it is a specialised
profession.

Thank you for your time.Will you be at Mayapur? Maybe we can meet?

Hoping that this finds you all well in Krishna Consciousness,

Your humble servant,

Mahavishnu Swami

>
> > Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama
> > Rama Rama Hare Hare. All Glories to Sri Guru and Sri Gauranga!
> > Camp:ISKCON Kisumu,Kenya. Mob 00254 726210683
> > (blog:http://mahavishnuswami.wordpress.com)
> >
> > Dear Brahma Muhurta Prabhu,
> >
> > Hare Krishna!All Glories to Srila Prabhupada!
> >
> > I was recently asked by HH Gopal Krishna Maharaja to manage the
> > Kiswahili BBT.As I see it the range of the BBT should also include other
> > major languages in East Africa.So we think BBT East Africa would be the
> > best title.BBT EA.
> >
> > As Kiswahili is the major African Language in East Africa  the location
> > of the BBT EA office should naturally be in Dar es Salaam in Tanzania
> > where Kiswahili is the main language. So I am thinking we should
> > register BBT EA there.
> >
> > To register BBT EA in Tanzania I think I need up to date revised BBT
> > legal documents to  study .Please can you help in this regard with
> > relevant information and advice? Or should this endeavour to register
> > BBT EA first be sanctioned legally by a central international BBT
> > resolution?
> >
> > Thank you .
> >
> > Hoping that this finds you all well in Krishna Consciousness,
> >
> > Your wellwishing,
> >
> > Mahavishnu Swami

      

by mahavishnuswami at January 29, 2009 05:11 PM

H.H. Mahavishnu Swami : I am in Tanzania and seek your blessed presence too


Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama
Rama Hare Hare. All Glories to Sri Guru and Sri Gauranga!  Camp:ISKCON
Nairobi,Kenya. Mob 00254 726210683
(blog:http://mahavishnuswami.wordpress.com)

Dear Mahaprabhu Caitanya,onbeach

Hare Krishna!All Glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Thank you for your kind letter of hospitality.

> I am in Tanzania..in the southern part…in Mtwara….and I heard that
> your kind self is visiting Dar es Salaam and other places very soon to
> give mercy to the fallen souls here.
>
> I am here with my wife and we were wondering if you and the other devotees
> would be planning on visiting this side also.
>
> We dont have too much facility here but we can help as much as we can. We
> stay in a single compound with another family who is from Britain…
>
> Our house has 3 bedrooms, a hall, a dining space and a kitchen…we use 1
> bedroom, 1 bedroom is used as a small puja space and the other one is
> empty and can be convenient for your stay. All the bedrooms have ACs.
>
> There is sufficient open space in the compound for the devotee truck to be
> parked. ( I am not sure if there will be objections, but we can manage
> that i think…since only this British family has any say…)
>
> There is ample water and good supply of electricity….no power cuts due
> to a new Gas based electric plant from Artumas.
>
> We have one tulasi plant at home, but she is drying up due to our weak
> devotion.
>
> We would be very happy to host the devotees for a few days and assist in
> any programs. The town of Mtwara has a small temple building also and
> about 15 Indian families who will be enthused by your presence for sure.
>
> Pls bless us by your presence if possible.

Judging by our schedule it will be difficult to add Mtwara in the itinerary
this time.I am sorry for that. But maybe you could could come up North on
some pretext and visit DSM and  join the festivals.Then we can remember you
for the next tour or a visit.

Thank you.

Hoping that this finds you all well in Krishna Consciousness,

Your wellwishing,

Mahavishnu Swami

 Your servant in the service of Guru and Gauranga
>
> Mahaprabhu Caitanya Das
>
> P.S. Kindly inform devotees about www.IskconMatrimonials.com
> This is a totally free matrimonials service. Please encourage everyone
> desirous of getting married to register on this site.
>
> For marriage counselling and other help, please write to
> Iskcon.Matrimonials@pamho.net

      

by mahavishnuswami at January 29, 2009 05:08 PM

Devadeva Mirel, Alachua, USA : Personal Habits


Last weekend we visited with my in-laws, who were down from DC for a presentation my father-in-law was giving in Tampa. A great opportunity for a family visit and a trip to the beach, we loaded up the car and headed south. 

Not, of course, without first cooking a weekend worth of eatables for the family.

Most people consider a vacation a time to forget about all the daily chores and household duties; a time to kick back and relax. Eating out is par for the course--how else would you get your meals when away from home without a kitchen?

I wish.

Because my husband and I both share in a commitment to eating pure vegetarian food, preferably home cooked with a whole lot of love thrown into it (it makes a difference, let me assure you), we hardly ever get to eat in restaurants. As I've mentioned before, we won't eat where meat is served. At the very least, we are freaked out about cross-contamination. What to speak of the fact that the smell kills our appetite (and totally upsets our kids). 

So going away--be it for a day or a weekend or even an extended period of time--requires real forethought. And work. For our trip, which was just an overnight jaunt, I prepared pizzas, slabs of pan fried tofu and salad/dressing. I also washed a whole lot of fruit, bagged up pistachios and bought along some string cheese for the kids. 

There are moments when I think, "This is crazy!" but this is the choice we've made. And we explain that to our kids, giving them room to make their own decisions about their eating habits when they get older.

It would be nice to think that my kids are developing such a love for cooking and homemade meals that they would never contemplate ordering in a pizza or getting the veg meal at a meat restaurant, but that would be naive of me. (I do sure as hell hope, however!)

Most vegetarians don't think twice about ordering a meal at a restaurant that serves meat. It is a non-issue for them. My husband and I have discussed this at length and have also discussed people we know who have stopped being vegetarian (thanks, Facebook, for cluing me into this phenomena). And we've concluded that these kinds of self-imposed restrictions are socially limiting, and people don't want to do that.

Unless one surrounds themselves with like-minded eaters, it becomes difficult and awkward. Depending on the social situation...if you are the only one with such restrictions...you may be seen as difficult or awkward. Trust me, I know.

I could go on and on about it but this is a blog, not a book. 

One thing I said to my husband during this discussion was that I hope people who find our eating habits (which are in some ways based on religious ritual and GOD--an often unpopular guy) irritating and limiting can at least respect that yeah, we do too! No, just kidding---kind of sort of--but anyway, I interrupt myself. Okay, what I was saying is, I hope that they can overlook the inconvenience of it and respect that we are truly dedicated to a world of non-violence. That we value life--all life--and cannot see our fellow inhabitants of this material and spiritual ecosystem as our entrees (or even our appetizers!). 

We cannot sit down to a meal where violence is naturalized and socialized. Non-violent eating is not just ritual for us; it is a deep understanding of and protest against the suffering of this world. 

But yeah, it is a total pain in the butt. But I guess that's part of what makes it so meaningful.

Trip Pics:

Late January Evening Swim



Cover your ears from the dinning!




They know the drill:  Room Service



A Room With An Urban View



Buddha's Delight

by noreply@blogger.com (Devadeva Mirel) at January 29, 2009 04:50 PM

Akrura das, Gita Coaching : HOW TO CATCH A FISH

How to catch a fish without getting wet?

How to help someone change without hurting them or offending them?

I asked Bhakta Nrsimhadeva from Ireland these questions today.

He gave me a brilliant answer: have a right motive.

by Akrura@pamho.net (akrura@pamho.net) at January 29, 2009 04:02 PM

Ananda Subramanian, Iowa, USA : The truth is one but elusive!

The question "why" is something that has put me in trouble more than once. In fact my entire life, I have asked this question only to raise the eyebrows of authorities. Questioning the status quo can come from two places - utter dumbness, or something profound!

My previous post was one of those unanswerable questions as to why things are happening the way it is happening but perhaps overtoned with criticism and cynisim than anything else. I admit it was irrelevant to Krishna Consciousness in a strict sense. There was a flaw in the presentation of the subject nevertheless the subject itself was less than flawed. It is, in my opinion, a matter that requires deeper knowledge and insight (which I failed to share and did not have intentions to). In other words, at the higher level, the subject may be perceived less politically correct/desirable; however when probed deeper, it becomes not about political correctness but one about ethics and basic principles foundation to professional and personal outcomes. Outcomes that impact common man (the less fortunate), the individual worker and worker culture. Not many would take the time to peel through layers of cynicism and criticism and see my pain and frustrations that was built up over half a decade.

It is like the debate between science and philosophy. Science gives us information (good and bad). Philosophy on the other hand reasons the information. In other words, science answers the question “what” and “how”; philosophy goes one step ahead and asks “why”. Like for example, what causes the earth to rotate around the sun?...perhaps is a scientific mind. Why is the earth rotating around the sun perhaps is a philosophical mind? Similarly, what is the function/duty/role of a group/individuals (male or female) in an organization and how to perform properly is one thing, but why a group/individuals (male or female) behave in a certain way is another thing. My previous post was a philosophical “why” with cynical and frustrated connotations behind it revealing my inherent flaw in presentation.

Anyways, how ever rebellious it may sound, I apologize to the public at large for my rebellious anartha filled nature and grateful for reader tolerance. As a neophyte grappling with the highest ideals of Vaishnavism, I am faced with two choices everyday either accept reality as it is dished out at me, in other words, submit to the Lord’s version or adulterate the reality by infusing my own wishful theoretical ego-filled mind. For now, my previous post was a look into the latter!

Out of the multitude of our sense experiences we take, mentally and arbitrarily, certain repeatedly occuring complexes of sense impression ... and we attribute to them a meaning the meaning of bodily objects - Albert Einstein

Different interpretation of sense data reveal a very different world with different sets of rules? Which interpretation is the right one? No one is exempt of this rule.

The truth is one but elusive.

Hare Krishna

note: previous post deleted

by ananda (noreply@blogger.com) at January 29, 2009 02:37 PM

Bhakti Lata, Alachua, USA : Touch of the Brajabasi: Introduction


To begin my Touch of the Brajabasi series, I would like to invite you to Vrindavan, and what it means to go to the most holiest of towns in a humble mood. We can truly see Vrindavan through the mercy of the Vaishnavas, or, the devotees of the Lord. 

***

 There’s a gated corner of the Chowpatty temple grounds called Vrindavan Forest. It used to be a trash dump, but by the vision of Radhanath Maharaj, five years later it is now transformed into a lush, cultivated garden, landscaped with little temples and lakes. It is a haven in the city of Mumbai.

 One morning, Sita Lila, Kumari, and I sat nervously outside of Vrindavan Forest, waiting for Radhanath Maharaj to finish speaking with someone. I had promised Kumari that I would introduce her to Maharaj, but I was getting the jitters. We were so ambushing him. Why am I always ambushing Maharaj? I berated myself.

 Then he emerged, in his glowing orange robes. The three of us stood, and a smile warmed his entire face.

 “Please, come in,” he ushered us in to Vrindavan Forest.

 We all looked at each other, speechless, then followed Maharaj’s suit into the Forest. In the pavilion, we settled down into plush bamboo sofas. “Here’s for the full effect,” he said, and he turned on the waterfall as well as the recording of Vrindavan birds singing in the morning. He smiled and settled down across from us.  

 The three of us conversed with Maharaj for a long time, inquiring and discussing about India and guru and service. Then, Kumari admired a little lake off to our side, a sculpture of Krishna dancing on the hoods of Kaliya emerging from the water.

 “Ah yes, this is Kaliya Ghat,” Maharaj explained. “And next to it, that is Vrinda Kunda… And you see all of these temples? They are replicas of the actual temples in Vrindavan, and the devotees here in Chowpatty made them. And…” his enthusiasm seemed to overflow. He grinned. “Do you have time? Come, I’ll give you a tour,” he said.

 The three of us traded delighted glances, and then we all stood to follow Maharaj to the front gate, the beginning of the Forest path.

 “This is a tamal tree,” he began, placing his hand on the trunk of a blackish tree. And so for the next fifteen minutes, Radhanath Maharaj pointed out every sacred tree and its significance, or that little piece of stone that was an original fragment of a temple in Vrindavan, or who the personalities were in their little temples. He seemed to glow with the pride of a father introducing his children – he had planted nearly every tree and plant in this garden. 

 I had been living in Chowpatty for nearly a month and a half, my room a ten-second walk from Vrindavan Forest. I had taken dozens of walks around the garden. But I had never seen the tamal tree. I had never noticed the piece of ancient stone. I had never known that Maharaj had planted these trees himself.

 At the end of the Tour, a revelation had crept into me and I was in awe. As we circled back around to the pavilion to retrieve our things, I said to Maharaj, “It's amazing, Maharaj, that this used to be a trash dump. This makes me realize that no matter where we are in the world, we can always find Vrindavan there." I paused. "Thank you. You have opened my eyes. I realize that without guru, without teacher, I simply cannot see what is there. Thank you, Maharaj.”

 He turned to look at me. “You’re welcome.”

***

Please tune in for the next several posts for the Touch of the Brajabasi series. 

by Bhakti lata (noreply@blogger.com) at January 29, 2009 01:22 PM

Manorama dasa : Vezetési struktúra

Reggel bent voltam a templomban. Ista-gosti volt. Az egyház megújult vezetési rendszeréről volt beszámoló. Érdekes és izgalmas. Sivarama Maharaja oldalán erről részletesebben hallhattok.

Ezután segítettem Maharaja iPhonejának beállításában. Már régóta gondolkozott, hogy ezt használja, de a billentyűzetével nem volt elégedett. Majd meglátuk, hogy bevállik-e neki.

by Mrd at January 29, 2009 01:01 PM

Dandavats.com : MISCOWP is alive!

Adiraja dasa: With great pleasure, we wish to inform you that on January 11, 2009, our non-profit organization, The Michigan Society for Cow Protection (MISCOWP), signed a sales contract to purchase a beautiful 80-acre farm in Whitmore Lake, Michigan.

by Administrator at January 29, 2009 11:27 AM

Dandavats.com : Appreciation Note to Organisers of S.A. Retreat

PrabhaVisnu dasa: I want to express my sincere gratitude to your beloved team who so affectionately organized such a great opportunity for us to meet and relish Krishna consciousness in a wonderful mood, under the tutelage and guardianship of our beloved Sri Gurudeva, HH Bhakti Charu Swami.

by Administrator at January 29, 2009 11:24 AM

Club 108, New Vrndavan : MISCOWP is alive!

Dear Friends, 27 January 2009

We are writing to ask you to help us establish our first Krishna-conscious farm in Michigan. With great pleasure, we wish to inform you that on January 11, 2009, our non-profit organization, The Michigan Society for Cow Protection (MISCOWP), signed a sales contract to purchase a beautiful 80-acre farm in Whitmore Lake, Michigan.

This farm project will be called Vedic Village. Our inspiration comes from Srila Prabhupada’s desire that devotees establish spiritually centered farm communities based on cow protection and agricultural self-sufficiency. We believe that this farm, working together with the Detroit Hare Krishna Temple, presents an extraordinary opportunity to expand the culture of Krishna consciousness and attract the hearts, minds, and souls of a great many people. Vedic Village is strategically located, far enough from suburbia to be nestled in peaceful farmland, and close enough to major cities to be a convenient drive. It is less than a half hour from Ann Arbor and Chelsea, and less than an hour from Lansing, Flint, and the Metro-Detroit area. We plan to interface with society on all levels, especially the education system and agricultural community. Before long, we would also like to develop a chain of sit-down, drive-thru vegetarian restaurants.

To help finance this project, and to provide the best produce and milk products possible to the Detroit Temple, our congregation and the general public, this Spring we plan to develop a 15-acre garden on the farm where we will cultivate over 40 types of organically-grown heirloom vegetables and fruits. By early summer, we also plan to have our first milking cows. We will offer community-supported agriculture (CSA) shares to at least 108 families for our first season. This means that people can redirect to our project some of the money they normally would spend on commercial produce, and thus receive a 10-15 lb box of fresh produce each week for 21 weeks during the growing season. Please see the attached 7-page CSA packet for more information and to get a good general understanding of our goals for Vedic Village.

Srila Prabhupada has pointed out that every major endeavor requires four things, namely land, labor, organization and capital. By Krishna’s grace, we have the land. Now we are asking for your help with labor, organization and raising capital. Please allow us to present our “wish list,” which includes some of the volunteer service and donations we need for our project to get off to a good start. Remember that because MISCOWP is a federally recognized (501)(C)(3) non-profit organization, all in-kind service and monetary donations are tax-exempt.

Volunteer help: In brief, we need help with fund raising; financial planning; grant research and writing; recruiting CSA members; garden design and construction; farming; carpentry skills to renovate the barn and outbuildings; care for the cows and oxen; and help with secretary, treasury and public relations.

Donations needed:
$1,000 a month to cover the $12,000 rent for the first year
$2,400 for the cost of purchasing organic, heirloom vegetable seeds
$900 for 30 fruit trees
$600 for 100 blueberry bushes
$450 for professional help to formulate a business plan
$1,500 for liability insurance for the first year
$500 for an assortment of garden tools and several wheelbarrows
$500 for 120 specially-made durable reusable Vedic Village CSA boxes
$3,500 for four 6-7 month old Zebu bulls at $800 each, plus $300 for transport expenses
to pick them up in North Carolina and bring them to our farm. (Two are a pure Indian
breed called Gyr, and the other two are American Brahmans, which are a mix of several
Indian pure breeds. Please see the attached photo of the two Gyr calves. In mid
February, we would like to bring them from North Carolina to a friends heated barn
near Vedic Village where they will receive much loving care. Eventually, we will learn
from Balabradra prabhu (co-founder of ISCOWP) and other experts how to train them
for agricultural purposes.
$1,500 to purchase several beehives, bees and equipment. We need bees and other flying
insects to pollinate our open-pollinated vegetable and fruit plants.
$2,000 for equipment to use for ox plowing and hay cutting.
$15,000 for a 3,350 foot long 8 foot high deer fence to protect the garden.
By May we will also need a sizable walk-in cooler, a delivery van, and a mini bus to transport people back and forth from the Detroit Hare Krishna Temple and Vedic Village.

We have faith that Krishna will help us every step of the way to develop this farm for the benefit of as many people as possible. The overall goal is to demonstrate to the world a healthy God-centered lifestyle that can be replicated anywhere. We believe humanity and Mother Earth needs Krishna consciousness more then ever and we are dedicated to develop a model educational farm community that everyone can appreciate.

If you would like to donate your time, join our team, or have any questions, please either call or email me at (313) 823-3815 / tommilano108@yahoo.com. According to your inquiry, you may be put in touch with either one of our two vice presidents, Antariksa dasa and Navadvipa dasa. If you would like to contribute towards any of our projects, please make your check out to MISCOWP and send it c/o Adiraja dasa, 313 Newport, Detroit, Michigan 48215. You will receive a receipt within two or three days. We also accept payment by credit card. In closing, we would like to thank you again for your interest in the success of Vedic Village and we look forward to your participation. Hare Krishna!

With warm regards,

Adiraja dasa
President MISCOWP

by Club 108 (noreply@blogger.com) at January 29, 2009 10:43 AM

Syamesvari dd : A festival for the eyes


The Supreme Personality of Godhead has a cheerful, lotuslike countenance with ruddy eyes like the interior of a lotus and a swarthy body like the petals of a blue lotus. He bears a conch, discus and mace in three of His hands.
His loins are covered by a shining cloth, yellowish like the filaments of a lotus. On His breast He bears the mark of Śrīvatsa, a curl of white hair. The brilliant Kaustubha gem is suspended from His neck.
He also wears around His neck a garland of attractive sylvan flowers, and a swarm of bees, intoxicated by its delicious fragrance, hums about the garland. He is further superbly adorned with a pearl necklace, a crown and pairs of armlets, bracelets and anklets.
His loins and hips encircled by a girdle, He stands on the lotus of His devotee's heart. He is most charming to look at, and His serene aspect gladdens the eyes and souls of the devotees who behold Him.
SB 3.28.13-16

by Syamesvari (noreply@blogger.com) at January 29, 2009 09:30 AM

David Haslam, UK : Women as sex objects

The other day one of my clients was telling me about one of the new singers by the name of Lady Ga Ga and had I heard any of her music or seen any pictures of her; NO after a short reply I was told that I didn’t know what I am missing. Well one of [...]

by WordPress at January 29, 2009 08:49 AM

1967 January 29: "Enormous, pulsing pictures of Krsna were in perfect sync with the beat of the mantra. Srila Prabhupada stood and began to dance with his arms raised, the crowd was completely absorbed in chanting."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1967

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 29, 2009 08:12 AM

1966 January 29 :
"Geeta meeting at Studio at 4 pm. Mr. Cohen came with friends and heard me for one and half hour up 5/30 pm. He has taken away one set of Books on approval."
Journal :: 1966

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 29, 2009 08:11 AM

1972 January 29 : "Hayagriva is unquestionably a very expert editor, so you please help him and encourage him to perform that service. If he can remain happy in Krishna's service then there is no measure to the value of his work."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1972

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 29, 2009 08:10 AM

1973 January 29 : "We have such a big field for preaching work. These temples are just like oases in the desert for the conditioned souls to quench their thirst for real happiness. They must be organized as nicely as possible."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1973

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 29, 2009 08:10 AM

1973 January 29 : "So very strictly maintain our principles and work every second of your life for serving Krsna. This sincere attitude will make you more and more advanced and one day Krsna will reveal Himself to you face to face."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1973

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 29, 2009 08:09 AM

1973 January 29 : "Our Festival has been a grand success. More than 15,000 people attended each night and joined in the kirtana and arati. People are eager for Krsna consciousness, when it is given in its pure form."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1973

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 29, 2009 08:08 AM

1970 January 29: "In our Temple all Europeans, Indians, Mohammedans, Christians, everyone is welcome. And our presentation is so nice that everyone will be attracted to accept it because we are preaching love of God."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1970

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 29, 2009 08:05 AM

1972 January 29: "The mayavadi take Devotional service to be maya; therefore we call them mayavadi. You should never, however, accept the mayavadi philosophy, at any time."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1972

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 29, 2009 08:05 AM

Club 108, New Vrndavan : All about MISCOWP

Vedic Village is an 80-acre educational farm community and community-supported-agriculture (CSA) farm located in Whitmore Lake, Michigan. Owned and operated by the Michigan Society for Cow Protection (MISCOWP), we are a non-profit charitable organization incorporated in April 2008. Our central purpose is to teach and demonstrate the usefulness of cows and oxen in developing a spiritually centered, self-sufficient rural community.

We believe in taking loving care of the animals for their entire lives, even when in their old age they may appear to be unproductive.

Our intentions are to:

interact with and contribute to the community at large providing goods, services and educational opportunities while representing the vision of MISCOWP;
develop a self-sufficient CSA farm with a store, an education center, and several miniature earth-shelter homes to act as demonstration and experimental models;
offer fresh, organic, bio-dynamically grown produce for 100 CSA members for the year 2009 and increase membership to 300 members in two years;
provide a training center for development of skills related to maintaining a small organic dairy, using ox power, sustainable organic gardening and farming, eco-friendly construction, creating renewable energy, and marketing cottage crafts.

As spiritually minded stewards of the Earth and its precious resources, we pledge to protect and maintain the soil, water, plants, and animals. We are always searching for progressive and creative ways to farm and distribute our blessed harvests.

by Club 108 (noreply@blogger.com) at January 29, 2009 08:00 AM

Subuddhi Krishna dasa, Chicago, USA : Srimad Bhagavatam Analogy - 55


Lord Brahma:

My dear Priyavrata, according to our association with different modes of material nature, the Supreme Personality of Godhead gives us our specific bodies and the happiness and distress we achieve. One must therefore remain situated as he is and be conducted by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, exactly as a blind man is led by a person who has eyes with which to see.

Srimad Bhagavatam - Canto 5 Chapter 1 Verse 15

Add Image

by Subuddhi Krishna das, Chicago (noreply@blogger.com) at January 29, 2009 07:33 AM

Bharatavarsa.net : Book distribution seminar: Bhagavat Gita

Hare Krsna,

All Glories to Srila Prabhupada,

After attending the Book Distribution Seminar with Vijaya Prabhu in Fiji and taking his association for a short time, our book distribution interests revived.

I tried selling Bhagavat Gita at my work place - starting with my Manager. Early Friday morning as soon as I came to work without even going to my desk, I went straight to his office. I told him that I have something for him and presented Bhagavat Gita. He was surprised at my approach and really appreciated it. He bought the Bhagavat Gita from me and guess what?

In the afternoon, he resigned from work................ after about a week I met him again. The first thing he told me was, "Now I have plenty time on this earth to read Bhagavat Gita."

Srimad Bhagavat Gita ki jai!!!

Yours in the service of Srila Prabhupada and Gurudev, Ambika Devi Dasi.

Arishma Devi | Fiji Times Limited Ph: 679 322 1618 | Mb: 679 946 4428 | Fx: 679 3305935 | www.fijitimes.com.fj 177 Victoria Parade, Suva, Fiji

This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee, you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachments are free from computer virus or other defect. (Text D:90023) ---------------------------------------------

------- End of Forwarded Message ------

January 29, 2009 07:20 AM

Book Distribution News : Bhagavat Gita

Hare Krsna,

All Glories to Srila Prabhupada,

After attending the Book Distribution Seminar with Vijaya Prabhu in Fiji and taking his association for a short time, our book distribution interests revived.

I tried selling Bhagavat Gita at my work place - starting with my Manager. Early Friday morning as soon as I came to work without even going to my desk, I went straight to his office. I told him that I have something for him and presented Bhagavat Gita. He was surprised at my approach and really appreciated it. He bought the Bhagavat Gita from me and guess what?

In the afternoon, he resigned from work................ after about a week I met him again. The first thing he told me was, "Now I have plenty time on this earth to read Bhagavat Gita."

Srimad Bhagavat Gita ki jai!!!

Yours in the service of Srila Prabhupada and Gurudev, Ambika Devi Dasi.

Arishma Devi | Fiji Times Limited Ph: 679 322 1618 | Mb: 679 946 4428 | Fx: 679 3305935 | www.fijitimes.com.fj 177 Victoria Parade, Suva, Fiji

This message and its attachments may contain legally privileged or confidential information. It is intended solely for the named addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message or responsible for delivery of the message to the addressee, you may not copy or deliver this message or its attachments to anyone. Rather, you should permanently delete this message and its attachments and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. Any content of this message and its attachments which does not relate to the official business of the sending company must be taken not to have been sent or endorsed by that company or any of its related entities. No warranty is made that the e-mail or attachments are free from computer virus or other defect. (Text D:90023) ---------------------------------------------

------- End of Forwarded Message ------

January 29, 2009 07:15 AM

H.G. Sankarshan das Adhikari, USA : Thursday 29 January 2009--Otherwise Civilization is Doomed

Because the modern day civilization is based on the principles of exploitation and greed and is thus not in harmony with the underlying principles of existence it is doomed to failure. Our present social system is inauspiciously based on the artificial platform of material sense gratification. Therefore it is gradually disintegrating. If we want true...

by course@ultimateselfrealization.com at January 29, 2009 03:30 AM

Devadeva Mirel, Alachua, USA : The Littlest Sabjimata

Okay. So, I don't have much to say, other than a picture speaks multitudes. 

Behold:



Isn't she a scene stealer? I love her to bits. Here she is making pancakes, which was what the kids had for dinner tonite. She insisted on doing everything, which meant that the children had a lot of misshapen pancakes, but even my son wanted Madhumati's and not the few that I was able to get a shot at.



And since I don't think my husband is too much of a "breakfast for dinner" kind of guy, I made a little impromptu desert for him (he is getting other stuff, too). These sweet yeasted pastries are filled with my strawberry jam and ricotta cheese, then glazed with an icing made from confectioner's sugar, water and homemade orange syrup. My son said after tasting one, "I can't stand how good these are!"  

Both my kids are getting trained up well in regards to all things kitchen. Venumadhava has realized early on in his eating career that flattery will get him everywhere.

by noreply@blogger.com (Devadeva Mirel) at January 29, 2009 12:37 AM

January 28, 2009

Devadeva Mirel, Alachua, USA : Gopi Bhava


Like all little girls raised in the Vaisnava tradition, Madhumati loves acting like a gopi. She is always singing Jaya Radha Madhava, acting out the song with mudras she picked up in preschool. It is, like most things Madhumati, super cute.

Here she is chanting the famous bhajan of Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur. To be honest, it was like the thousandth time in a row she was doing it so I think, by the time I decided to pick up the camera, that she started to loose a little steam. Okay, a lot. Honestly, she used to know all the words pakka but I think now that she is concentrating on the complex assortment of hand gestures, she has definitely lost some points for accuracy.



by Devadeva Mirel (noreply@blogger.com) at January 28, 2009 11:11 PM

Bharatavarsa.net : Bhakti Vikasa Swami: Nothing, cannot be, none, nothing

What is painful for saintly persons who strictly adhere to the truth? How could there not be independence for pure devotees who know the Supreme Lord as the substance? What deeds are forbidden for persons of the lowest character? And what cannot be given up for the sake of Lord Krsna by those who have fully surrendered at His lotus feet?

>>> Ref. VedaBase => SB 10.1.58

January 28, 2009 09:11 PM

Bharatavarsa.net : Bhakti Vikasa Swami: Nothing, cannot be, none, nothing

What is painful for saintly persons who strictly adhere to the truth? How could there not be independence for pure devotees who know the Supreme Lord as the substance? What deeds are forbidden for persons of the lowest character? And what cannot be given up for the sake of Lord Krsna by those who have fully surrendered at His lotus feet?

>>> Ref. VedaBase => SB 10.1.58

January 28, 2009 09:11 PM

Devadeva Mirel, Alachua, USA : Lula's Sweet Apothecary




Now New York City truly does have it all!

G-lal, my man on the street, just reported this original and tasty East Village find: Lula's Sweet Apothecary. An entire shop dedicated to vegan ice cream and frozen yums. Lula's is located at 516 East 6th Street, between Avenues A & B.  Actually, it is not too far from The Doughnut Plant. Stopping at both would make for a very delicious afternoon (and they're only 4 minutes apart).

Although not a vegan, I'm really not into freezing cold dairy. What to speak of the hassle of finding ice cream without eggs.  Believe me, it's more difficult than it sounds. Lula's would eliminate all uncertainty and in this way up the enjoyment factor of our next ice cream outing.

If only. 

If only Lula's was a Florida thing. 

I'm sure G-lal, who is smart enough to have stayed in Jersey all these years, will soon send me some pics of his beautiful family at  Lula's, devouring a few cones.  Okay Govardhana...we're waiting!

by noreply@blogger.com (Devadeva Mirel) at January 28, 2009 09:11 PM

Japa Group : Srila Prabhupada Speaks

Srila Prabhupada gives a very interesting and inspiring insight into the meaning of the Hare Krsna mantra and the deep understanding of each word contained in the Maha mantra.

by Rasa Rasika (noreply@blogger.com) at January 28, 2009 08:54 PM

Kurma dasa, AU : The Big Salad

The Big Salad:

Many years ago, when I was travelling the world, interviewing expatriate Australian Hare Krishna devotees for my historical book, 'The Great Transcendental Adventure', I found myself in Colorado. I had tracked down some old friends, Vidyaranya and Dipak, who lived in Boulder and Basalt respectively.

My home base was in Denver, at the Hare Krishna Temple, and everyday I would have lunch at Govinda's on Cherry Street. It's still there, by the way, and highly recommended.

I picked up quite a few recipes on the road, and some of them made their way into my subsequent cookbooks.

govindas cherry street:

Yesterday I received this letter from Pamela in California, and it got my culinary memory juices flowing:

"I am asked to make Almond salad dressing for our next home program. Would you please give me the recipe. Thank you."

Here's my reply:

DYNAMITE DRESSING

The Hare Krishnas of Denver, Colorado, run a very popular restaurant, Govinda's, on Cherry Street. One of their salad dressings particularly appeals to me; as the name suggests, it's packed with strong flavours. Nutritional or brewers yeast is available at health food stores.

PREPARATION TIME: a few minutes YIELD: 2 cups

1 cup blanched almonds 1 cup cold water 1 cup olive oil 3 tablespoons freshly-squeezed lemon juice 3 tablespoons tamari or soy sauce 3 tablespoons nutritional yeast or brewers yeast

Place all the ingredients in a blender and process until completely smooth. That's it.

It's a great dressing, especially on 'big salads'.

by Kurma at January 28, 2009 07:52 PM

Sutapa das, BV Manor, UK : Just Be yourself...


Someone I know recently started a new job. "I have to put on such an act with all these people" he complained, "I can't wait to get back home and just be myself again!". We all have this experience. We feel happiest with our closest friends and family - where there is no artificiality, no acting, no masks... we can just relax and freely express ourselves.

The foundational teaching of all Vedic philosophy is that our identity goes beyond this physical body and all the designations that go with it. The Bhagavad-gita repeatedly stresses how we are eternal spirit souls entangled in a temporary machine, in a temporary situation. All anxieties, all fears, all dissatisfaction comes because we identify with the temporary machine we are using. Imagine the satisfaction, happiness, and sense of fulfilment we can experience if we realise who we really are... spirit souls. Thats the ultimate in 'being yourself'.

"All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players"
- Shakespeare

by Sutapa das (sutapa.kks@hotmail.com) at January 28, 2009 07:39 PM

Priya Gopal, USA : Motherhood

This morning as my daughter was in my mother's car on their way to school, she yelled for me to come give her a hug and kiss. I was in my slippers and my hair was wet from my recent shower, but I turned around to get my shoes on. I didn't tell her though, that I was going to put my shoes on. In her panic to make sure she got her hug and kiss, she scrambled out of the car tears already gushing from her face. By the time I made my way down the back porch stairs she was so upset. I hugged her and kissed her profusely, and sent her on her way.

But when I returned into the house, I was so completely plagued by that mother's guilt. There have been so many times where I grudgingly gave the perfunctory 10th good-bye hug and kiss, or became frustrated with the neediness. And today I saw that all those time had such an effect on her, that she didn't trust that I would come, but assumed that I had turned around to go back inside not to put my shoes on. I just felt terrible.

Do mothers and children both internalize the worst? Mothers remembering all the times we slipped it and lost it on our children, conveniently forgetting the more than countless times we gave unceasingly to our children? And children remembering the same, all the times their mothers yelled and freaked out, and not the hugs and stories, the ice cream cones and library trips. It seems I'm being a little bit too generalizing. Of course we remember both, and of course we do internalize both. It just seems like I'm forever repentant for my mistakes.

My daughter just came into my room, excited about having heated up and served her own leftover noodles. She has ended her proclamation with giving me a hug and kiss. I know I've done a good job as a mother, the best I can and could. Sometimes I just wish I was perfect.

But, is there a perfect mother out there? A mother who regrets nothing, and is confident in every decision she's made? Is there? I think not. For we are raising human beings, not the perfect loaf of bread. And humanness is such a complex thing.

I'm turning 30 next week, and my children are 7 and 5, and their middle years of childhood are corresponding with my middle years of life. They are entering the stage of independence, and my sudden independence from them is staring me in the face. Of course I love the quiet mornings where I can eat breakfast in peace, chant, clean my house, do errands alone. But some days I have an ache in my heart for all the years with my little ones. I filled up my water jugs at Wal-mart today, and all I could hear in my inner thoughts were my children fighting over who gets to turn the tap on to fill the water up, and who gets to turn it off. Here I was peacefully getting water, and all I wanted was for my kids with me. I realized that that time where they want to help me with everything, and be with me always, is so short-lived. Of course how many mothers told me this how many times? Too many to count. It's the bittersweetness of motherhood. As Sue Monk Kidd, one of my favorite authors, wrote, "So much of parenting is negotiating endings, the unceasing process of disconnecting the strings that tie our children to us, preparing them for a life on their own. That has always been the ache and beauty of it for me--taking the deep breath and trusting somehow in the goodness of life, in God, in something beyond myself."

Anyway, as I was saying, humanness is so complex. The complexity of my diverging emotions and desires, and the complexity of theirs. And the complexity of putting those all together.

I love being a mother. It's so challenging and draining, but it is so fulfulling to me. It gives me so much meaning, so much joy, so much.

I'll end with this quote from an article about a mother with a 17-year-old daughter going on her own. It reminds me everyday, that this is my chance, this is the time I have to nurture my children, teach them, smother them with love, imbibe goodness and purity and Krsna into them. This is my time. Ok. Here's the quote.

"I stood in the street, gripping my phone, feeling the way I'd felt when she was tiny and heading off to preschool for the first time, her backpack on her back, her hand in the hand of someone who wasn't me. I wanted to call her, tell her all the things I'd forgotten to say--the things she'd need to know when she found herself scared or lonely, the things that would make the difference between her having a happy life or a sad one. But it was too late. I'd had my chance. It was her time to discover her world on her own."

by Priya (noreply@blogger.com) at January 28, 2009 05:35 PM

Madhava Ghosh dasa, New Vrndavan, USA : We Live In Illusion


Regular readers will know I am quite  illusioned, ergo I like optical illusions and have a whole category dedicated to them.   Here is one that is quite literally  an “optical illusion”.

optical-illusion

Of course the biggest illusion is that the material world is the only reality.  To get beyond that we need to find a teacher so we can…

teachlearn

What do we need to learn?

“By the spell of illusion one tries to be happy by serving his personal sense gratification in different forms which will never make him happy. Instead of satisfying his own personal material senses, he has to satisfy the senses of the Lord.”

Bhagavad Gita Preface

Maya, thinking that the material world is it, is sometimes defined as “This is me, that is mine.”

But as Prabhupada says above, we can never be happy unless we look beyond “Me”…

youme

Posted in uncategorized      

by Madhava Gosh at January 28, 2009 05:24 PM

Sutapa das, BV Manor, UK : Lessons on the road...

I will be traveling around the country for the month of December. Its the season of goodwill, and as monks we travel through cities sharing spiritual ideas with everyone we meet. We will be everywhere from Portsmouth to Ipswich and from Norwich to Nottingham.


Ofcourse we dont like to use the word preaching... it conjours up images of self-righteous religious practicitoners, claiming how much better they are, and forcibly imposing ideas and worldviews on others. We feel our lives have been deeply enriched by these wonderful scriptures, and naturally feel inclined to share that with anyone who is interested. If not, we wish everyone a good day and leave them with a smile.

The world is in dire need of a spiritual message. The teachings of the Bhagavad-gita are non-sectarian, scientific, extremely practical and beneficial for people from all walks of life. We will carry thousands of these wonderful books of wisdom with us, inviting people to delve into something they may have never thought about... the yoga of love and gratitude...

May bump into you on the street... watch out!

PS: Can you guess the famous actor I met last year (picture above)?

by Sutapa das (sutapa.kks@hotmail.com) at January 28, 2009 04:06 PM

Gauranga Kishore das,USA : Cows

I miss cows. This is the first time I've ever lived anywhere without cows. I happened upon some photos that I took sometime back of the cows when I was living in New Vrindavan. They brought back fond memories. I changed the desktop picture on my computer so now I get cow darshan regularly. It makes me happy just looking at them.

""I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, the first progenitor, who is tending the cows, yielding all desires, in abodes built with spiritual gems and surrounded by millions of purpose trees. He is always served with great reverence and affection by hundreds and thousands of goddesses of fortune."

by Gauranga Kishore Das (noreply@blogger.com) at January 28, 2009 04:01 PM

Japa Group : Please Join the Japa Group

Please share your realisations with other devotees from around the world...simply send me an introduction email and I will be happy to make you a member:

rasa108@gmail.com

ys

Rasa Rasika dasa

by Rasa Rasika (noreply@blogger.com) at January 28, 2009 03:41 PM

Akrura das, Gita Coaching : FIVE AREAS

Here are few quick tips for five areas of your life.

Health
Eat less, dance more (in kirtana if possible).

Sadhana
Chant 16 rounds in one go first thing in the morning.

Service
Do what you love to do.

Relationships
Judge less, help more. Instead of being interesting, be interested.

Finances
Always spend less than you earn.

by Akrura@pamho.net (akrura@pamho.net) at January 28, 2009 02:51 PM

Akrura das, Gita Coaching : ALL DESIRES

The Lord will satisfy the senses of the living entities as much as they deserve, but not to the extent that they may covet. But when one takes the opposite way -- namely, when one tries to satisfy the senses of Govinda without desiring to satisfy one's own senses -- then by the grace of Govinda all desires of the living entity are satisfied.

Bg 1.32-35 Purport

by Akrura@pamho.net (akrura@pamho.net) at January 28, 2009 01:18 PM

Dandavats.com : Japa retreat in Radhadesh with Sacinandana Swami 8–13 of June 2009

Sacinandana Swami: It is a great honour for me to facilitate these japa retreats all over the world. I would be most grateful if you come in great numbers so that we can create a powerful sanga (community) of committed chanters.

by Administrator at January 28, 2009 01:07 PM

Dandavats.com : Raghuantha das Gosvami Study Guide 2009

Sadhusanga: If we could sit down with Raghunatha das Gosvami and Bhaktivinoda Thakura for a couple of hours, and inquire from them what topics are essential for developing our Krsna consciousness, what would they say?

by Administrator at January 28, 2009 01:05 PM

Dandavats.com : Iskcon Panama Ratha Yatra

Radhe: Iskcon Panama would like to invite you to the 5th Annual Ratha Yatra parade. The parade would be held on the 21st of March and would be a unforgettable event for all the participants.

by Administrator at January 28, 2009 01:03 PM

Dandavats.com : Psyche and Conscience

By Matsyavatara dasa

Distorted mental representations, not only generate heavy unbalances and serious pathologies on the psycho-physical level, but also impair our access to Reality.

by Administrator at January 28, 2009 01:00 PM

Manoj, Melbourne, AU : 109. Torquay Beach Harinam


On the Sunday that just went by, I had another chance to mingle with the wonderful disciples of His Holiness Indradyumna Swami Maharaj. Earlier in the morning, at prasadam time, Stoka prabhu asked me, if I wanted to join them in their trip to Torquay, a nice beachfront town, about 2 hours from Melbourne. At this place, they would be conducting a harinam on a popular beach followed by the last and final show of “La Carnaval Spirituel” in Australia for 2009, later in the evening. I jumped at the sudden opportunity! A perfect occasion to do some service, get some valuable association of devotees and of course try out the new camera.

In this post, I will focus on the beach harinam and in the next post, I will put some snaps and a short essay on the event as well. But for now, let’s go through the Sunday at the beach.

Our comfy vehicle

A few large and comfortable passenger vehicles had been sourced for the trip. Dominic prabhu, the main person looking after all the arrangements, ensured that the right mix of people were packed into the vans. 

In the van and on the road...

We left Melbourne under a cloudless sky and the mercy of a nice warm sun. What can I say about the ride? Nothing much. But, what about the passengers? Wild !!! And hilarious ! I had 16 rounds to go, but I spent most of the time laughing ! Torquay is 95 Km South West of Melbourne and we took the road via the Geelong-Surf Coast Highway. Torquay is also the commercial centre for surfing with the major source of employment related to surfing goods and merchandise. Hence, it is often labeled as Victoria’s surfing capital.

Torquay - The Lucky beachside

The beach at Torquay was fabulous. It had all the ingredients necessary to make a great day for the Australians - the long weekend, hot sun, good surf, beer at hand, plenty of people to gaze, sportive kids and lots of parking. We could see people thoroughly enjoying the crystal clear blue waters. In fact, I think, we saw more people in the water than on land ! Would they have ever guessed in their wildest dreams, who else would be checking the beach out on this day?

May the party begin !!

The Hare Krishna’s start their performance. A performance which is based on a genuine interest to get people introduced to spirituality, whenever and wherever. The first part of the harinam was led by Tribhuvaneshwar (in red) who also led the kirtans at all the “La Carnaval Spirituel” shows in Melbourne. He has a nice soft voice which immediately gets people’s attention. Next to him is Stoka prabhu, well protected from the harsh sun. He is one of the most soft spoken guys I have ever met and to see him on the beach, loudly singing with the others was a surprise for me. 

Smiling and dancing all the way...

The devotees in their eastern wear was the highlight and a complete surprise for the sun bathing locals. Here they were, on a hot hot day, completely clad from head to toe, walking such long distances on the beach, yet maintaining a beautiful smile all along. I guess this really put the people at ease somewhat and they quickly figured out that the new entertainment on the beach was well worth the watch.  

Stumped by a handout!

3-4 devotees ensured that they didn’t forget their purpose on the beach - to invite one and all, to attend the event in the evening. These devotees ran the length and breadth of the beach with handouts they had made so lovingly the previous weeks. Each handout for them seemed like a currency note. Such was the value assigned to each one. Because we knew that every person who accepted it and also listened to a few words from the devotees, were very special. When these handouts were accepted by non-devotees, the feelings of achievement was high. I guess we felt that they accepted us and the Hare Krishnas. But then, there were a few people who refused to pick one. During such times, there was sadness in the heart of the young devotee and perhaps, a feeling that they let their guru maharaj down. I could see it in their faces. They can’t hide it. The sun was bright.

From one side of the beach to the other...

The devotees with their drums, hand cymbals, loud speakers on their shoulders, dhotis and sarees, traveled from one section of the beach to the other. Wherever there were people, we went. It was getting very hot. But the purpose of sharing the holy name and the cold wet sand was very satisfying. The devotees would wave out to the crowd and many of them would wave back. I could hear the beach-goers say, “They are the Hare Krishna’s”, to those who weren’t aware. Then, there were those who completely ignored us and wouldn’t even exchange glances. But we kept going. It’s not the quantity of people who paid attention that’s important but the the act of being out there, chanting the Holy name, giving people a chance to meet the devotees again and giving anyone an opportunity to hear Krishna’s name was of the highest priority. 

Alternative beach wear !

Many people went up to the matajis and exclaimed how beautiful they looked in the colorful outfits. It’s something they had never seen or expected to see on a remote beach. In fact, against the grey sand, blue sky and almost naked people, our troupe looked the most attractive. Even from a distance, you couldn’t miss them. As I sat on the sand, I loved watching the well synchronized movement of the saree ends and how it flicked some sands up in the air.

"You guys are nice"

There were always a few who appreciated what we were doing. Perhaps, they were happy to have been entertained. We would see people dance in the distance, there were others who listened attentively to what we had to say and some used the devotees as a photo opportunity. Perhaps, they couldn’t wait to tell their friends of the weird happening at the beach. I also spotted a few who hugged or embraced the devotees. I am not sure what conversation was going on but they seemed to be enjoying each others presence. One main reason why people liked them could be because of the friendly nature of the devotees. Also, whether they accepted or ignored, the devotees kept their tempo high and gave people the impression that they loved what they were doing out there. And I suppose in Australia, people love that attitude. 

Sri Prahlad Das - from CD to sea-side

For me the highlight of the afternoon beach harinam was when Sri Prahlad Das took the lead to sing. I was so happy. Because, like I mentioned in my previous post on La Carnaval Spirituel at Fitzroy, I had spent a few years listening to his CD, “Harer Nama”. The music was in my CD player, in my iPod and also in my laptop. Whenever I got a chance, I would play it. Everyday at the altar, it was a standard practice to switch his music on and sing alongside. The kirtan that he led on the CD was so full of energy and enthusiasm. Even my earlier Japanese room mate who had no inclination towards spirituality whatsoever, once told me how he enjoyed listening to the music during my prayer time. So, in a way, it was a dream come true to be listening to him live ! I walked along side him, whenever I got a chance, thanking Krishna for the luck and opportunity. I love the above photo and perhaps..maybe, it could be on his next CD !!!! Now, that would be something ! 

Mrindanga drum - a new sound for the people

Under the leadership of Sri Prahlad das, the rest of the crew picked up their energy even more. It was great to see how he brought out many variations of the Maha Mantra. And we could see many young men and women on the beach get up or stop their beach cricket to focus on the nice beats coming from the distance. And some even danced to the tunes ! 

"Yeah...dude! I think..like..you like..really cool !!"

A group of women on the beach, possibly from the UK, got really wild with their dancing on the beach with us ! It was a sight to watch and many people began to encourage them to keep dancing. They did some disco moves while others attempted, what looked like a belly dance. One young girl, even put her palms together in a prayer position, held it high over her head and moved her hips around wildly. People were loving it. I can’t remember what we felt then. They went with us for a short distance before requesting to have our photos taken with them.   

People gaze and kept gazing...

A good majority of people, just sat there on the beach, with their eyes fixed on the procession. Many didn’t know what to do. Should they join? Perhaps clap like the others? Are they supposed to donate? What kind of show are these Indian attired westerners want us to attend?  And why are they on the beach? So many questions must have been running through their mind. Some people looked very possessive about their beach. The way they would stare without any interest or continue reading their books without even looking up, gave me the impression that they didn’t like any such exhibition in front of them. 

The sand, the surf, the sun and the audience.

The young Australians are the solutions to this country. After all, for any country, the youth is the most valuable resource. Its important they learn very early on that life isn’t all about being laid back, hitting the surf, having a party with mates every now and working hard to fund all these pleasures. From a very young age, they need to be exposed to the wonderful world of diverse cultures, all of which has its basis in spirituality. They need to understand that spirituality and devotion to God can be just as fun as catching the next big wave and riding it to the best of their abilities.

All of them together...

This is a favourite photo of mine. Here, you can see all the devotees arranged in such a way that you can see them all. This is what the crowd would see from their seated position. In fact, I have 150 more photos of the beach session but I can’t post them all here. Just the one’s that will help me narrate the incidents and those that doesn’t look repetitive. 

Looking pleased....

And finally, the person who was the backbone behind the beach harinam operation - His Holiness Indradyumna Swami Maharaj. Through out the entire 2.5 hours on the hot beach, he let his young team take charge. He was right behind them all along, playing on his blue mrindanga. He always kept an eye out on the crowd, measuring their interest level on the devotee performance. Whenever he felt that they had performed enough in front of a particular section of the crowd, he would inform the head of the troupe, to move to the next set of stationed people on the beach. I kept wondering throughout the entire session how the devotees were so tolerant of the people and extreme heat. Not a sip of water was taken throughout the tough ordeal. I suppose when the mission is enjoyed and the pleasure of guru is vital, all hardships easily pass.

It was a great learning opportunity for me in many ways. We can’t expect people to come knocking on our doors to take up spirituality. Since we have the answers, we must actively pursue them. Whether, it be hot or cold, outside or inside, streets or the beach, hungry or thirsty, as Hare Krishna’s we always have a job to do - to take the transcendental name of the Lord to one and all. Not a drop of time can be wasted. You never know whose life can be changed in an instant.

Cries out, Hare Krishna! and begins to dance immediately.

Cries out, "Hare Krishna!" and begins to dance as the devotees pass

      

by 9days8nights at January 28, 2009 12:59 PM

Dandavats.com : JAPATHON : Catch Them Young

Hare KrishnaBy Nisha Chopada

Everyone knows about Srila Prabhupada book distribution Marathon around holidays, however, what is this Japa-tha-on? Well. Japathon started at Boise, Idaho, USA temple.

by Administrator at January 28, 2009 12:55 PM

Kripamoya dasa, UK : Bloody Sunday


Photo by John Bierman

An iconic scene from January 30th, 1972 - the day that became known as Bloody Sunday. The body of a young civil rights protester, Jackie Duddy, 17, is being carried away, and the Catholic priest, Father Edward Daly, is waving a blood-stained handkerchief to prevent further shots being fired. The young man was given the last rites in the street. This image was later sent around the world, painted on walls, and printed on T-shirts. Inspired by Father Daly’s conduct, I wrote to him and he was kind enough to reply.

On Sunday, January 30th 1972, in the city of Derry in Northern Ireland, a regiment of the British Army opened fire on a civil rights march. They were protesting the recent creation of internment camps, where suspected IRA members were being held without trial. When the army blocked the official route, the young men began to throw stones at them. Then something terrible happened: the army began to fire live ammunition. 27 people were shot, and by the end of the day 13 of them lay dead. The Army said that shots had been fired and that they had returned fire. The marchers said that no-one was armed and five of the dead had been shot while running away.

I was 16 when it happened and I remember exactly where I was standing the following day when I saw the Daily Mirror with the front page news. I remember a sinking feeling in my stomach. It troubled me greatly. The image on the front cover was disturbing, unlike any newspaper picture I’d ever seen. Here was a teenager just a year older than me shot on the street of his town - by our own army? I was bewildered by what seemed to me to be the beginning of a civil war. It frightened me.

Living in Cornwall we didn’t feel connected with London and had some strange sense of kinship with our fellow Celts in Ireland. Like them, we were way out west. Out west and a world away from Westminster.Trying to understand why people hated each other, as well as trying to solve many other questions I had on my mind, I began to explore eastern philosophy.

So by 1976 I had just turned 20 and I was in Derry, Northern Ireland, trying to sell copies of the Bhagavad-gita. I was British and it was only four years after Bloody Sunday. The atmosphere was tense, and so was our reception. Although the people were friendly, and we had not come with a political message, still everyone was preocuupied with the ever present troubles, and everyone knew someone whose home had been visited by personal tragedy.

The army were still very much present in the city, patrolling in staggered columns, looking here and there at second-floor windows for snipers. They seemed remote, fixed on an unseen threat and a world away from the shoppers around them, although sharing the same street. Heavily protected and armed, they were an incongruous sight outside Woolworths. Every so often an armoured car would slowly drive down the road.

Our home at the time was a converted single-decker bus that doubled as a ‘travelling temple’ complete with an altar and a large space for the public to come inside and talk to us. We’d take it to schools and market squares and talk to people. That evening we had a rendezvous with members of a youth club in the Bogside, the part of Derry where the residents were predominantly Catholic and Republican. A large mural taking up the entire end of a house declared: “You are now entering Free Derry.”

As we entered the Bogside and drove towards the church hall where our event was to be held, some unseen person threw a stone at our bus. At first we thought it was some road chippings or a sound out in the dark street. Then another stone came down on the roof, then another, closely followed by a volley of stones. Stone-throwing was common of course, especially if you had British mainland number plates as we did. I had already been stoned once before, but that time I was outside the bus. One stone cracked me on the head - and it hurt. On that day we were in Shankhill Road which was predominantly Protestant; so we couldn’t quite figure out why they’d want to stone ‘the Brits.’ Maybe the younger kids just liked the sport of throwing stones.

Somehow we decided to carry on, navigating a silver single-decker bus through narrow streets. When we met our contact it turned out that many IRA members had invited the children to come to this non-sectarian event. Slowly they began to arrive, the kids who had thrown stones looking a bit cowed at their mistake, especially when they saw their own burly youth leader standing there at the door.

The hall was packed and we did what we always do: Kirtan, lecture, drama, short talk followed by prasadam. Kirtan got everybody going, especially when we asked them to raise their hands and dance in a line round the hall. When the parents saw their kids enjoying themselves they also raised their hands and started to dance - a brief respite from the pressures of life around them. It was when we broke out the prasadam - food offered to Krishna - that all the children became a tidal wave that engulfed the stage where we’d started serving. Although there seemed to be hundreds of them, they all got some hot strawberry halavah washed down with milkshake.

As we packed up and said our goodbyes, we were invited to ‘please come again, ’cause everyone liked it.’ It was good to be appreciated, and to think that we’d been able to do some good for people in a place where there’d been so much grief. For me personally, it was a precious few moments when I’d come into contact with the people behind the headline that had so moved me as a teenager. I was able to see that behind every headline there’s a multitude of personal stories, and that spiritually I’d been able to help in some small way, albeit briefly.

Some years later, one of our Bhagavad-gitas made its way into the infamous Long Kesh Prison, otherwise known as The Maze. Home to Gerry Adams and many others, it was also the temporary home of one young IRA man who was also looking for his own answers in eastern philosophy. After two years in the ‘H-blocks’ of the Maze, he took to the daily practises of Vaishnavism and has remained a devotee of Krishna ever since.

The ‘Bloody Sunday Inquiry’  - the second inquiry into the events - began in March 2000 and is still continuing. Confident expectations are that the inquiry will conclude in late 2009.

Below: How the Daily Mirror told the story. Bottom: Mural on a Bogside wall

,

Moving images: Click here

And for a dramatic reconstruction of events: Click here

      

by deshika at January 28, 2009 12:32 PM

Dandavats.com : WSN December 2008 - World Sankirtan Newsletter

By Vijaya das

For complete results and to send in your scores go to www.SankirtanNewsletter.com (password: wsnhome) Deadline for scores is the 15th of the next month.

by Administrator at January 28, 2009 10:24 AM

David Haslam, UK : Cows find milky way to happiness

This is the headline from an interesting article posted on the BBC web linked here: cows find milky way to happiness It highlight one thing we already know and understand how personal and loving cows really are, saying that the question remains why do so many people want to kill and eat them? Interesting article go read

by WordPress at January 28, 2009 09:09 AM

H.H. Bhakticharu Swami : Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 3.9.15

The following is a Śrīmad Bhāgavatam class given by H.H. Bhakti Charu Swami Maharaja on January 28, 2009 at ISKCON Ujjain.

To download the lecture, right click on the download link and choose either “Save link as” or “Save target as”

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 3.9.15 - Chapter 9: Brahmā’s Prayers for Creative Energy

The following is a Śrīmad Bhāgavatam class given by H.H. Bhakti Charu Swami Maharaja on January 28, 2009 at ISKCON Ujjain. To download the lecture, right click on the download link and choose either ldquo;Save link asrdquo; or ldquo;Save target asrdquo; Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 3.9.15 - Chapter 9: Brahmārsquo;s Prayers for Creative Energy

by Vinod-bihari das at January 28, 2009 08:59 AM

David Haslam, UK : Holocaust Memorial Day

Bridgend County Borough Council (BCBC) invited me to attend the Holocaust Memorial Day (27-1-09) being held at the Grand Theatre I had two hats to wear one as a member of the Standing Advisory Committee of Religious Education (SACRE) and the other as a member of the faith community i.e. a Hare Krishna. One of the things [...]

by WordPress at January 28, 2009 08:49 AM

1966 January 28 :
"Purchased vegetables -- .42
Busfare -- .30
Expenditure .72
Saw Mr. Cohen at his place.
He is to come here tomorrow at 4 pm."
Journal :: 1966

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 28, 2009 08:02 AM

1969 January 28 : "The best news of all is that soon we shall have our own press. Our life and soul is kirtana and presenting literature. Krishna is dictating to you from within how to carry this out successfully."
Letters :: 1969

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 28, 2009 08:01 AM

1969 January 28 : "There is no harm in this mantra, but it is not very important. There are many such common songs composed out of sentiment. In our temple, strictly Hare Krishna chanting."
Letters :: 1969

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at January 28, 2009 08:00 AM