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February 11, 2009

Deva Gaura Hari, AU : Smelling for God

“Gee something smells good in there,” I heard the voice coming from the open front door as I stirred the pot of dahl that I was cooking to offer my Deities this afternoon. “Oh no,” I thought to myself, “I don't want someone lusting over my offering before I've offered it.” I turned to see a pleasant looking woman with her 10 year old daughter standing at the door, looking ever so well-meaning with a magazine in her hand.

“Good afternoon,” I pleasantly greeted them as I slowly walked up to the doorway to talk. The smiling lady started to preach to me about how they were giving out these magazines today, and that they told how God is the answer to all the problems of the world today.

I agreed and immediately told her that He certainly is, and that He is the cause and source of everything, and that we worship Him with everything we do. I went on to explain to her in a nice way, how we even offer our cooking to God as a sacrament before we eat it, and we don't even enjoy the smell of food before it's been offered to God.

She obviously understood my reference to her previous comment and countered with her own argument, “Yes, but God gave us smelling didn't he?”

“Well yes”, I replied, “but we use our smelling to serve Him, for His pleasure, not to enjoy the sense separately from Him. Once the food is offered to God, then we appreciate how wonderful it smells.”

The concept seemed to float past her, strangely attractive, but slightly out of reach. I reflected on how such concepts that devotees who practically serve the Deity form of the Lord find simple and straightforward, are very difficult to grasp for one who does not have a personal relationship with the Deity.

My smiling visitor then took another tack, utilizing a well-worn tenant of post-Christ Christianity: “Well we're all sinful at heart aren't we?”

I immediately thought of the verse from Caitanya Caritamrita where Krsnadas Kaviraja Goswami tells us, 'nitya siddha krsna prema, sadhya kabu naya, sravanadi suddha citte karaye udhaya' and gave her the essence: “Well, we believe that we are pure and beautiful at heart, but we are just covered by this material sinfulness. Just like Jesus said to hate the sin, not the sinner. By serving God with our sense we can reawaken our original pure and beautiful nature”.

“That's such a beautiful way of looking at things,” said the lady, genuinely appreciative of the sampradayic knowledge, as she went back to her main mission of trying to get me to take her magazine; while her daughter watched on, seemingly bemused that her mother was being preached to by someone else, who seemed to know as much, or even more about God than she.

“Thanks all the same, and I really appreciate your sincerity in coming out here and knocking on doors, but we are going to live in a holy place in India in a week, so I won't be needing that. But I wish you all the best, and may God be with you.”

“And may he be with you too”, said the sincere preacher at my door, who took my leave and went on to spread the good word leaving me reflecting on what an amazing process of self-realization we have been given by Lord Caitanya, that easily and clearly illuminates the subtlest of spiritual truths, which remain hidden to even the most sincere practitioners of other traditions.

by devagaurahari at February 11, 2009 04:44 PM

Kurma dasa, AU : Non-grain Flour

Patricia N from Southwark, London, UK writes: "Kurma, can you share with me some non-grain flour ideas?"

My reply: "Yes. Here's my list of non-grain flours, some you may not have encountered."

amaranth in full bloom: amaranth

Amaranth flour: Milled from the seeds of the amaranth plant, this flour boasts a higher percentage of protein than most other grains, and has more fibre than wheat and rice. It is also higher in the amino acid lysine, which some food scientists believe makes it a more complete protein than flour made from other grains. Amaranth flour can be used in cookies, crackers, baking mixes, and cereals.

Arrowroot flour: The rootstalks of a tropical plant are the source of this flour, often used as a thickener for sauces and desserts; the finely powdered arrowroot turns completely clear when dissolved (giving gloss to sauces), and adds no starchy flavor. Because of its easy digestibility, it is also an used as an ingredient in cookies intended for infants and young children. I use it as a grain-free substitute to corn flour (cornstarch for all US readers).

Buckwheat flour: A common ingredient in pancake mixes, buckwheat flour is also used to make Japanese soba noodles. It is available in light, medium, and dark varieties (the dark flour boasts the strongest flavor), depending on the kind of buckwheat it is milled from. You can make your own buckwheat flour by processing whole white buckwheat groats in a blender or food processor.

Chestnut flour: This tan flour is made from chestnuts, the meaty, lowfat nuts that are often served as a vegetable. The flour is a little sweet and is traditionally used in Italian holiday desserts. Italian shops sell it.

Potato flour (potato starch): Steamed potatoes are dried and then ground to a powder to make this gluten-free flour, which is commonly used in baked goods for Jewish Passover (when wheat flour may not be used).

Quinoa flour: Higher in fat than wheat flour, quinoa flour makes baked goods more moist. You can make your own quinoa flour by processing whole quinoa in a blender; stop before the flour is too fine - it should be slightly coarse, like cornmeal.

Tapioca flour: Milled from the dried starch of the cassava root, this flour thickens when heated with water and is often used to give body to puddings, fruit pie fillings, and soups. It can also be used in baking.

Water-chestnut flour (water-chestnut powder): This Asian ingredient is a fine, powdery starch that is used to thicken sauces (it can be substituted for cornstarch) and to coat foods before frying to give them a delicate, crisp coating.

I am sure this is not a complete list. I also encountered flatbreads made from banana flour whilst in India. Last time I posted this information I received this letter from a reader:

"I also have some more flours used by Gujarati Krishna Devotees.

1) Ragigara (or Ragigaro or rajgira) flour - Very small - is a very small tiny seeds like yellow mustard seeds but much smaller. The seeds can be used to make popcorn and these popped seeds are used to make khir with milk and sugar. The flour is used to make halavah which turns out to be a brown and sticker than regular halavah. The flour is used to make vada, parathas, puris, rotis and small pakoras with mashed potatoes using herbs, ground black pepper and salt added. (note from Kurma: this is amaranth, as described in my list above.)

2) Singado flour. Pakoras are made using ground peanuts and mashed potatoes, little baking power, salt and coriander leaves and ground black pepper. (note from Kurma: this is another name for Water Chestnut flour, as described above.)

3) Cassava grits and flour. (very starchy but sweet tasting roots). Boil the grits with 2 to 3 times the water. It turns into mashed potato consistency and any chopped vegetables can be added. These can also be used to make halavah and base for the Ekadasi Pizza. Boiled Cassava makes excellent subji with lots of fresh tomatoes. Boiled - sliced (one inch thick sticks) - Fried sticks sprinkled with black pepper and salt and a little lemon, make amazing chips that far surpass potato chips. Hope this helps. Gandhari Dasi"

by Kurma at February 11, 2009 04:27 PM

Kripamoya dasa, UK : Vaishnava beating continues


He gave orders for the religious paraphernalia of the Vaishnavas to be smashed, but ended up touching the feet of Chaitanya in respect. On the doorstep of his house, the Chand Kazi discussed the Qur’an with Chaitanya, and told him of the dream of the lion-man the previous night.

While we were celebrating Sri Nityananda Prabhu’s Festival on Saturday, the police were breaking up a similar festival in another country. The devotees were arrested and their religious paraphernalia confiscated. The country, not surprisingly was Uzbekistan and the city, Samarkand.

The old architecture of Samarkand was built by architects from Mathura in India. So great was the architecture in Mathura that the conquering armies of Timerlane destroyed the finest buildings in the city but captured the architects and took them back to build the new city in 1370.

The same issues of cultural conquest were played out when mridanga drums of the early Gaudiya Vaishnavas were smashed by police sent by the Chand Kazi, local administrator for the Nawab Hussein Shah, Persian overlord of Bengal in the 1500s.

The situation in those days when Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was beginning His sankirtan-lila was resolved by His personal intervention. We pray that He may also intervene and bring resolution today for His devotees in Uzbekistan.

Here’s how the human rights news agency Forum 18 reported last weekend’s incident:

Samarkand Regional Criminal Police raided the Hare Krishna gathering in
Samarkand on 7 February as devotees were about to celebrate a religious
festival, the appearance day of Sri Nityananda. Police detained Kasimov and
several other devotees and held them overnight. “All devotees except
Kasimov were released the next morning, 8 February,” a source from
Samarkand, who wanted to remain unnamed, told Forum 18 that day. Kasimov was released from detention late in the evening on 8 February, another source told Forum 18 on 9 February.

Samarkand’s Regional Criminal Police confirmed to Forum 18 on 9 February
that Kasimov was released from detention. The officer who answered the
phone said that Kasimov is “only” being investigated for an administrative
violation. “I don’t know when the case will be brought to court,” he said.
The officer also refused to say under what article Kasimov is being
investigated. “I can only tell you that for a second such violation,
Kasimov will be made criminally liable.”

The Samarkand Regional Police told Forum 18 that alongside the Criminal
Police, the National Security Service (NSS) secret police are also involved
in the case.

A source from Samarkand told Forum 18 that the Hare Krishna devotees had
rented a small hall, and invited some fellow devotees and friends for the
celebration of their festival. “When the celebration started, several
police officers broke in and stopped the programme,” the source reported.
“The police arrested Kasimov and some of the devotees.” The source pointed
out that the Hare Krishna community is still prohibited in Samarkand, as it
is not registered. “Probably Kasimov will be charged with organising
unauthorised religious activity,” the source stated.

by deshika at February 11, 2009 04:03 PM

Madhava Ghosh dasa, New Vrndavan, USA : Monk Gloats Over Yoga Championship


From “The Onion”, 3/6/96

LHASA, TIBET—Employing the brash style that first brought him to prominence, Sri Dhananjai Bikram won the fifth annual International Yogi Competition yesterday with a world-record point total of 873.6. Sri Dhananjai Bikram walked away with the World Yoga Championship after averaging 1.89 breaths per minute for two straight hours. “I’m blissful! You blissful?! I’m blissful!” he screamed repeatedly to the other yogis.

“I am the serenest!” Bikram shouted to the estimated crowd of 20,000 yoga fans, vigorously pumping his fists. “No one is serener than Sri Dhananjai Bikram—I am the greatest monk of all time!”

Bikram averaged 1.89 breaths a minute during the two-hour competition, nearly .3 fewer than his nearest competitor, second-place finisher and two-time champion Sri Salil “The Hammer” Gupta.

The heavily favored Gupta was upset after the loss.

“I should be able to beat that guy with one lung tied,” Gupta said. “I’m beside myself right now, and I don’t mean trans-bodily.”

Bikram got off to a fast start at the Lhasa meet, which like most major competitions, is a six-event affair. In the first event, he attained total consciousness (TC) in just 2 minutes, 34 seconds, and set the tone for the rest of the meet by repeatedly shouting, “I’m blissful! You blissful?! I’m blissful!” to the other yogis.

Bikram, 33, burst onto the international yoga scene with a gold-mandala performance at the 1994 Bhutan Invitational. At that competition he premiered his aggressive style, at one point in the flexibility event sticking his middle toes out at the other yogis. While no prohibition exists against such behavior, according to Yoga League Commissioner Swami Prabhupada, such behavior is generally considered “un-Buddhalike.”

“I don’t care what the critics say,” Bikram said. “Sri Bikram is just gonna go out there and do Sri Bikram’s own yoga thing.”

Before the Bhutan meet, Bikram had never placed better than fourth. Many said he had forsaken rigorous training for the celebrity status accorded by his Bhutan win, endorsing Nike’s new line of prayer mats and supposedly dating the Hindu goddess Shakti. But his performance this week will regain for him the number one computer ranking and earn him new respect, as well as for his coach Mahananda Vasti, the controversial guru some have called Bikram’s “guru.”

“My special training diet for Bikram of one super-charged, carbo-loaded grain of rice per day was essential to his win,” Vasti said.

The defeated Gupta denied that Bikram’s taunting was a factor in his inability to attain TC.

“I just wasn’t myself today,” Gupta commented. “I wasn’t any self today. I was an egoless particle of the universal no-soul.”

In the second event, flexibility, Bikram maintained the lead by supporting himself on his index fingers for the entire 15 minutes while touching the back of his skull to his lower spine. The feat was matched by Gupta, who first used the position at the 1990 Tokyo Zen-Off.

“That’s my meditative position of spiritual ecstasy, not his,” remarked Gupta. “He stole my thunder.”

Bikram denied the charge, saying, “Gupta’s been talking like that ever since he was a 3rd century Egyptian slave-owner.”

Nevertheless, a strong showing by Gupta in the third event, the shotput, placed him within a lotus petal of the lead at the competition’s halfway point.

But event number four, the contemplation of unanswerable riddles known as koans, proved the key to victory for Bikram.

The koan had long been thought the weak point of his spiritual arsenal, but his response to today’s riddle—”Show me the face you had before you were born”—was reportedly “extremely illuminative,” according to Commissioner Prabhupada.

While koan answers are kept secret from the public for fear of exposing the uninitiated multitudes to the terror of universal truth, insiders claim his answer had Prabhupada and the two other judges “highly enlightened.”

With the event victory, Bikram built himself a nearly insurmountable lead, one he sustained through the yak-milk churn and breathing events to come away with the upset victory.

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by Madhava Gosh at February 11, 2009 03:06 PM

Gaura Vani, USA : Chant4Change: Inaugural Kirtan Festival

Shiva Rea the wonderful hostess of the evening. Saul David Raye leads the Gayatri Mantra

I awoke to the sounds of stomping feet and beating drums. There was a contagious buzz already surrounding the group the morning of the event. Gaura’s house was filled with busy people. Some were rehearsing, some were ironing, some were rushing from here to there to help with the preparations for the event but everyone was excited, and everyone had a smile on their face. For the first time that I could see, busy preparation time had actually turned into “service attitude of love” time. Although everyone had their part to do, people were happy to be a part of making this event happen. I took a deep breath and smiled, not quite knowing what the evening was going to bring. I knew that the show had been sold out and that there would be standing room only, but I wasn’t quite sure what that meant. (more…)

by acyuta.gopi at February 11, 2009 02:00 PM

1967 February 11 : "Here the climate is certainly like India and I am feeling comfortable but uncomfortable also because in New York I felt so much at home on account of beloved students like you."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1967

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 11, 2009 01:37 PM

1967 February 11 : "There will be a great exposition in Montral and millions of people will gather there from all parts of the world. We have to prepare literatures and draw the attention of the university students as our members."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1967

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 11, 2009 01:36 PM

1967 February 11 : "Wherever we get opportunities we must perform Kirtana. Our popularity in this part of the country is increasing. You should also arrange for such Kirtana programs in different churches and societies."
Letters :: 1967

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 11, 2009 01:36 PM

1970 February 11 : "We should not pray to Krishna for anything except to ask to engage in His service. If we are engaged in His service then automatically everything will be revealed."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1970

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 11, 2009 01:35 PM

1970 February 11 : "This is very essential. I would like to know if the initiated devotees are chanting regularly sixteen rounds and following the regulative principles rigidly."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1970

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 11, 2009 01:35 PM

1973 February 11: "Even they are going to jail daily, but still they will not stop their chanting and distributing. Our Sankirtana activities will go on unchecked. Simply we must have the determination to continue under all circumstances."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1973

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 11, 2009 01:34 PM

1966 February 11: "There was no response of the visitors invited to come and join Hari Kirtan this evening. But I alone executed the Kirtan ceremony with my tape recorder till 10 pm. The following letters were posted: Morning Telegram, Times Mirror Co., N.B.C. Radio, WOR, WNYC."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1966

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 11, 2009 01:33 PM

1967 February 11: "I wish that each and every Branch shall keep their independent identity and cooperate keeping the Acarya in the centre. On this principle we can open any number of Branches all over the world."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1967

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 11, 2009 01:32 PM

Manoj, Melbourne, AU : 117. Japanese Version


After 2 years of witnessing me, “feeding the black God in a photo, ringing bells and singing with a CD“, as he would put it, my friend finally picked up the Japanese version of the “Krishna” book, which I had gifted him a year and half ago. Hooray !!

The Krishna book

The "Krishna" book

He is from Japan and currently doing his Masters by research in the field of education. He considers himself as someone who has no inclination for spirituality, philosophy or the English language, although very strangely his written English is very good. Thanks to his digital Japanese-English dictionary. He comes from a little town in Japan, loves his tradition but a bit unhappy over its current lifestyles. Anyways, I managed to get this 1994 copy of the “Krishna” book from Sri Vrindhavan Dham in August 2007. Although, he was deeply thankful to me for having brought him a gift, he wouldn’t read it. He wasn’t interested. He didn’t need it. There was no time for God. His priorities were different. Study hard, do the assignments, get good grades, please the lecturers and finally secure a good job. And I didn’t push him at all.

And 2 weeks ago, he picked up the book from the shelf and said, “I think I will start reading this…”. Many hours later, he remarked, “This is tough philosophy…I can’t even understand the Japanese words…but its interesting“. Few days ago, he mentioned that he remembered his grandfather back in Japan being very spiritual and even donating a good portion of his money to a temple nearby. I was surprised. I asked him to find which temple that was. I am having my fingers crossed….no news yet….

Anyways, as far as his Krishna Conciousness progress and reading goes, I wish him all the best !! Hope his interest grows more and more…

by 9days8nights at February 11, 2009 01:12 PM

Dandavats.com : Nectar from Mayapur - HD videos

Hare KrishnaBy Mayapur.tv

The Mercy of Pancha-Tattva Within Everyone's Reach. Six fancy cameras have been installed in the temple room with a high-speed internet connection. A broadcasting/mixing room has been constructed and a film crew have come from the UK to film around the campus

by Administrator at February 11, 2009 12:08 PM

Gaura Vani, USA : Kirtan in Princeton

Kalpavriksha Leads Kirtan Kirtan in Princeton

We rang in the New Year at Radha Govinda Mandir with kirtan, and spent the first day of the New Year doing kirtan in Princeton, NJ. It was the first time that I was able to attend the program, even though the devotees there have the program monthly. The room was small but we were able to fit enough devotees in it to have a rocking kirtan that everyone was able to enjoy. (more…)

by acyuta.gopi at February 11, 2009 12:00 PM

Akrura das, Gita Coaching : CHOICES

Whatever choices we make, we have to live with the consequences - good or bad.

by Akrura@pamho.net (akrura@pamho.net) at February 11, 2009 11:51 AM

Bharatavarsa.net : Book distribution seminar: Mommy's boy

Book distribution is never an experience out of a textbook-no two days are same, no two customers alike. Preparing for challenges help, but one should be ready to expect the unexpected. And with advancing Kaliyuga, the tests will be not only more frequent, but also more bewildering, more so in a metropolis like Mumbai. One day, during the December marathon last year, Bhagwan Pandit Prabhu, a devotee in Brahmchari training in Sri Sri Radha Gopinath Mandir, was faced with one such challenge. Bhagwan Pandit Prabhu is a young devotee from Orissa. He is dark and medium built and always has a bright smile on his face. He recalls: One day I was distributing books in the local trains in Mumbai when I came across a boy sitting with his girlfriend. Generally such couples are lost in their own world and rarely accept books. Anyway, I made my announcements about the books and began showing it to interested people. Then a hand shot up. It was the boy. I showed him the book. He flipped through it, showed it the girl, and then returned it. "Nice book," he smiled.

"Then please take it," I smiled too.

"Well I err. I have to ask my mom before I take it."

I looked in his eyes and said, "Did you ask your mom before sitting with this girl?"

The remark was heavy but I said it with a smile. He could have easily got up and smacked me, and in no ways I could have defended myself. I quickly decided to exit.

As I turned he called me, "Wait a minute. You are right. Give me the book."

This was not the only time Bhagwan Pandit Prabhu boldly preached the truth. Once he met a gang of young men who were having a wild time in the train. Again he decided to confront them.

I went to this group who were talking loudly and were very animated. I made announcement. They stared at me quizzically and then one of them spoke up,

"Don't waste your time here Pandit Ji, we are not interested in your books." One said in a soft voice, "We are Muslims."

"No,' I replied, "Laws of nature spare no one. If you put your hands in fire it will burn. You can not say that you don't believe in its burning power. Similarly the wisdom of Bhagwad Gita is for everyone,"

The same man who said that he was not interested called me and took a Bhagavad Gita. (Text D:41644) ---------------------------------------------

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February 11, 2009 09:20 AM

Book Distribution News : Mommy's boy

Book distribution is never an experience out of a textbook-no two days are same, no two customers alike. Preparing for challenges help, but one should be ready to expect the unexpected. And with advancing Kaliyuga, the tests will be not only more frequent, but also more bewildering, more so in a metropolis like Mumbai. One day, during the December marathon last year, Bhagwan Pandit Prabhu, a devotee in Brahmchari training in Sri Sri Radha Gopinath Mandir, was faced with one such challenge. Bhagwan Pandit Prabhu is a young devotee from Orissa. He is dark and medium built and always has a bright smile on his face. He recalls: One day I was distributing books in the local trains in Mumbai when I came across a boy sitting with his girlfriend. Generally such couples are lost in their own world and rarely accept books. Anyway, I made my announcements about the books and began showing it to interested people. Then a hand shot up. It was the boy. I showed him the book. He flipped through it, showed it the girl, and then returned it. "Nice book," he smiled.

"Then please take it," I smiled too.

"Well I err. I have to ask my mom before I take it."

I looked in his eyes and said, "Did you ask your mom before sitting with this girl?"

The remark was heavy but I said it with a smile. He could have easily got up and smacked me, and in no ways I could have defended myself. I quickly decided to exit.

As I turned he called me, "Wait a minute. You are right. Give me the book."

This was not the only time Bhagwan Pandit Prabhu boldly preached the truth. Once he met a gang of young men who were having a wild time in the train. Again he decided to confront them.

I went to this group who were talking loudly and were very animated. I made announcement. They stared at me quizzically and then one of them spoke up,

"Don't waste your time here Pandit Ji, we are not interested in your books." One said in a soft voice, "We are Muslims."

"No,' I replied, "Laws of nature spare no one. If you put your hands in fire it will burn. You can not say that you don't believe in its burning power. Similarly the wisdom of Bhagwad Gita is for everyone,"

The same man who said that he was not interested called me and took a Bhagavad Gita. (Text D:41644) ---------------------------------------------

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February 11, 2009 09:15 AM

Anuradha Kesavi dd, Dubai, UAE : Dhamvasi or spiritual warrior?

Question: I feel that sometimes staying in the dham is like spiritual sense gratification. You can hear the holy name 24/7, see devotees everywhere, get to do so much service, get wonderful association all the time. So I sometimes feel a little selfish if I have this desire to stay in the dham. Preaching in the material world is such an austerity. It is so hard to live outside the dham, deal with karmis all the time and preach. So how do we follow the mission of prabhupad while dealing with this desire to stay in the dham?


Answer by H.G Pankajhangri Prabhu: (paraphrased)

Well, staying in the dham is definitely spiritual sense gratification. It is wonderful to stay in the dham. But this sense gratification is the true sense gratification. The gratification we get in the material world is not real. But if we sacrifice this pleasure and go out and preach taking up this austerity, we become very very dear to Lord Chaitanya.

At the same time, it is very important to visit the dham to recharge. Which is why Prahbupad organized the Gaura Purnima festival and other festivals. We have to come to the dham once a year and recharge our batteries and go back out in the battlefield to preach.

Those who are really weak, then Krishna says, "Ok you can stay back here" I'm exposing my own weakness here :) I'm not personally so strong to go out and preach in the material world. So we get to stay back here :)


So I have been in the spiritual world for the last 12 days. Every moment was memorable but not every moment can be described by words unfortunately. I have written down a few beautiful moments such as the one above which I'll post as soon as I get a chance to.


by Anuradha Keshavi (rt.kanna@gmail.com) at February 11, 2009 09:08 AM

Giriraj Gopal das, Bn Sara, and crew, USA : The Morning Program

The Morning Program
A friend of mine was semi new to the temple. He was staying in the ashram on weekends. Some temple authorities sat down with him and told him that he should be careful because he was associating with some people who were not very good association. He then asked who is good assocation. The authorities, according to my friend, told him that he should only associate with people who go to the morning program, and actually gave him a list of names of people who go to the morning program with whom he should associate. This attempt to control his association had an opposite effect of turning him off because it seeemed so controlling and judgemental to say that only this list of people are good association and everyone else is not.

I have not heard the other side of the story, so needless to say, there may be more detailed reasons for this list.However, assuming that all details presented here are true, I would like to present the perspective of someone who does not go to the temple morning program, just for communication's sake, so that those of us living in the temple and those of us not living in the temple can better understand each other rather than judge each other as good or bad association just based on attendance in the morning program.

These are some points that came to mind:
1) Nobody knows what another person is doing within the privacy of their own home - a person who does not attend the temple morning program, may be having a full morning program at home. In fact, throughout my travels, I have met many sincere and inspiring devotees who taught me about having home morning programs. At the home morning program, one gets to be the pujari, lead the kirtana, really engage the mind since there is a lot involved in this.
2) Although there is extremely high value in chanting during the brahma muhurta (sorry for the spelling errors), and also in regulation and saddhana, ultimately Krishna accepts the mood of devotion above all else. Someone may attend the morning program daily with a great mood of devotion, but another may do it ritualistically or out of pride or other reasons. Similarly, someone may stay home and chant there with great devotion, or may stay home out of laziness, or other reasons as well. It is not the place, but the motivation, sincerity of purpose, and mood that counts. The gopis pleased Krishna by giving them the dust from their feet because He wanted it, and the wives of the brahamanas pleased Krishna by their great devotion. Those following rituals alone did not please Krishna as much.
3) Health - attending a five hour morning program before going to work can be exhausting for the body, whereas having a three hour morning program at home can be spiritually enlivening but more practical for the grihasta who has many other duties to perform. It's not the same as living in the temple. Work is a genuine duty as well, and one has to adjust things to be practical.
4) The morning program provides a solid foundation for one's spiritual life, but again everyone is at a different place spiritually, materially, etc. We should not be in competition with one another but be sincere to ourselves and make gradual advancement. Someone may chant 2 rounds a day but those rounds might be so sincere and attentive, and that person might live their life in such a devotional, sincere way that pleases Krishna, whereas another person may chant 16 rounds and go to the full morning program and be proud of that and mean to other people, controlling, etc. I would rather associate with the person chanting 2 rounds in this scenario - it is the person not just attending the morning program that counts. Ideally we can chant 16 rounds and be that warm, loving, sincere person, but out of the two options above the first one seems better association to me.
5) Personally, I choose to go to the evening program rather than the morning program for one additional main reason - I like the mood hundreds of times better in the evening. This is just my personal inclination. Others may love the morning program mood, and it's wonderful that we have both so that all kinds of people can find a place where they fit in to worship Krishna. I am not saying the evening program is better, but that for me personally it is better. For me, I like the evening program because everyone who is there, is there because they want to be there, not because they have to be there. In my persepctive that sets up a loving, enthusiastic, inspirational mood. Also in the evening the women can lead kirtana, play mrdanga, and sit up closer, all of which help me meditate more intensely on Krishna and on the chanting. In the evening people are dressed in various clothes whereas in the morning I feel out of place if I am not wearing a sari. In the morning I have witnessed people being kicked out of the program which upset me because I thought the temple should be a place where all are welcome. In the evening all kinds of people come, and it seems that all are welcome. When I go to the morning program I sometimes leave it feeling upset, hurt, or frustrated because I don't understand the mood of it, but I leave the evening program feeling enlivened, happy, and in thoughts of Krishna because I feel I fit in better there and also feel more welcome. I am not criticizing the morning program, rather I truly admire people who have the discipline to attend every day. I think that to be something amazing that I find very difficult to do. I love associating with people who have such strict saddhana as well. There is definate strong power in daily intense saddhana. I am just presenting another perspective. Another person may love daily routine, be enlivened by everyone wearing he same type of clothes in the morning, someone may find that totally enlivening. That's great. The point is that everyone is different, and there is not just one way to eat a Resces. Krishna accepts many forms of service from many types of people. Just as there are pujaris, book distributors, etc. there are also people who attend the morning program at the temple, and people who please Krishna in other ways.

I would be happy to hear another perspective, but all I know is that I can say with full faith that I have a personal relationship with Krishna, and that He loves me no matter what, and that I feel a stronger connection with Him when I am being practical, real, and true to myself and where I am at in spiritual life, and even moreso when I focus on sharing Krishna with others, than when I follow everything to the exact "T" without being able to adjust things practically according to the situation. If that makes me and others who do not go to the morning program bad association, then I am not sure where to go from here. But such kind of preaching does seem to scare people away rather than keep them coming to the temple. I also clearly remember a time when I lived in the ashram, and we were being read to during breakfast during the marathon. One temple leader told us that Srila Prabhupada once said that anyone who does not go to the morning program is a demon. I understand that if one is really devoted to God, that person will naturally want to rise early and spend five hours glorifying Him, and hearing and chanting about Him, and that a person who would rather just sleep or do other things is in some way not as God loving, or may have some demonic mentality. However, to preach in this heavy way that works to inspire fear in people is a big turn off for some. Is there any in between? Are there only pure demons and pure devotees, or are there people who were raised in the kali yuga who are trying to become devotees in a gradual and practical way? When I heard that quote about everyone else being demons who do not go to the morning program, I felt scared inside that I was in some kind of cult, and did not feel so comfortable with that kind of mood. I think we have to be careful the way we present things to new devotees if we don't want to scare them away. Maybe some people will not like this post. I don't intend to offend or criticize, I really don't want to do that.I just felt it to be quite scary to give someone a list of who he can and cannot associate with and base that list on attendance in the temple morning program and wanted to open up communication about this issue. I know when I lived in the ashram there I was also taught to avoid people who don't go to the morning program or follow as strictly, but I did not know such a mood was still being presented. And I can also say that I turned off many a friend and family member by having an attitude of being better than others (for going to the morning program) whereas now I find much more happiness in seeing other's strengths and good qualities rather than thinking everyone else besides temple people are demons - that was a horrible way to live, and my heart felt tremendous relieft upon letting go of that attitude. Please correct me if I am wrong - I write only according to my level of realization - my intent is to speak what I know to be truth and thus please Krishna, but of course I have imperfect senses and am open for discussion and to hear other ideas on this topic.
My summary of the situation is that it is a rare soul who even comes to take an interest in Krishna Consciousness let alone start right away at a young age to chant 16 rounds, go on harinams, etc. When such a rare soul comes to our movement, why not fan the spark within with positive engagement in Krishna's service and a mood of joy and love rather than scare people away with rigid rules and sectarianistic thinking which seems to go against the jist of Lord Caitanya's movement and Srila Prabhupada's teachings.
Thank you.

by Bhaktin Sara Bock (noreply@blogger.com) at February 11, 2009 08:52 AM

Bhakta Chris, New Vrndavan, USA : The Soul of Merton 2-11-09

Further along in the introduction to Contemplative Prayer by Thomas Merton, he speaks, in his own unique realization and style, that the prime gift of monastic/spiritual life is the ability to find the internal spiritual strength that is void in contemporary, consumerist society, and being able to share this strength with all those who need it most.

In a planet on edge, the opportunity strengthens to bring the full compassion of Krsna consciousness to the suffering hearts of our brothers and sisters. Merton writes:

"This is an age that, by its very nature as a time of crisis, of revolution, of struggle, calls for the special searching and questioning which are the work of the monk in his meditation and prayer. For the monk searches not only his own heart: he plunges deep into the heart of that world of which he remains a part although he seems to have left it. In reality the monk abandons the world only in order to listen more intently to the deepest and most neglected voices that proceed from its inner depth."

This is also Prabhupada's mood. It is our deepest responsibility as devotees, having received the gift of the wisdom from Prabhupada's books, to give it freely and with great intelligence and compassion.

We cannot remain holed up in ourselves or within our temple walls. We only waste away if we do not express to others the seed of devotion within our own hearts.

Ultimately we must bring up all the reserves of courage to face our own inner demons, for it is our duty to understand them, to face them, and to transcend them, only so we can learn to help others to do the same. Merton writes:

"The monk who is truly a man of prayer and who seriously faces the challenge of his vocation in all its depth is by that very fact exposed to existential dread. He experiences in himself the emptiness, the lack of authenticity, the quest for fidelity, the 'lostness' of modern man, but her experiences all this in an altogether different and deeper way that does man in the modern world. The monk confronts his own humanity and that of his world at the deepest and most central point where the void seems to open out to black despair. The monk confronts this serious possibility and rejects it, as Camusian man confronts 'the absurd' and transcends it by his freedom...The monk faces the worst and discovers in it the hope of the best. From the darkness comes light. From death, life."

Or as HH Bhakti-Tirtha Swami often said, we must die before dying, allowing Krsna through His mercy and our sincere effort to destroy the false ego.

Our sincere chanting, our sincere prayer, opens the door for this process to begin and continue, and we must have the courage and humility to allow Krsna to express His love and His neverending desire to deliver us back to Him.

The chanting of the Holy Name of Krsna, our most intimate prayer, is our strength and our guide, and the key to our higher self, by giving us countless opportunities to cast off our lower self.

By doing so, we please Prabhupada by becoming his dynamic, loving servants, empowered to offer the proof of eternal happiness to a world that needs it desperately.

by Club 108 (noreply@blogger.com) at February 11, 2009 08:00 AM

Club 108, New Vrndavan : Darwin Is Dead!

To begin our "celebration" of the 200th anniversary of the birth of Charles Darwin, we here at Club 108 offer you and yours a special bit of katha from Srila Prabhupada, from the excellent book "Life Comes From Life"

Morning Walk
4-19-73, Cheviot Hills Park, Los Angeles

"The Missing Link"
Dr.Singh (His Holiness Bhakti Swarup Damodar Maharaj): In fact, there are several theories explaining how life originated from matter, how living matter came from the non-living

Prabhupada
: (casting Dr. Singh in the role of a materialistic scientist) All right, scientist, why is life not coming from matter now? You rascal. Why isn't life coming from matter now?

Actually such scientists are rascals. They childishly say that life came from matter, although they are not at all able to prove it. Our Krsna consciousness movement should expose all these rascals. They are only bluffing. Why don't they create life immediately? In the past, they say, life arose from matter, and they say that this will happen again in the future. They even say that they will create life from matter. What kind of theory is this? They have already commented that life began from matter. This refers to the past-"began". Then why do they now speak of the future? Is it not contradictory? They are expecting the past to occur in the future. This is childish nonsense.

Karandhar Prabhu: They say that life arose from matter in the past and that they will create life this way in the future.

P: What is this nonsense? If they cannot prove that life arises from matter in the present, how do they know life arose this way in the past?

Dr.S: They are assuming...

P: Everyone can assume, but this is not science. Everyone can assume something. You can assume something, I can assume something. But there must be proof. We can prove that life arises from life. For example, a father begets a child. The father is living, and the child is living. But where is there proof that a father can be a dead stone? Where is their proof? We can easily prove that life begins from life. And the original life is Krsna. That can also be proven. But what evidence exists that a child is born of stone? They cannot actually prove that life comes from matter. They are leaving that aside for the future. (Laughter)

K: The scientisis say that they can now formulate acids, amino acids, that are almost like one-celled living organisms. They say that because these acids so closely resemble living beings, there must be just one missing link needed before they can create life.

P: Nonsense! Missing link. I'll challenge them to their face! (Laughter) They are missing this challenge. The missing link is this challenge to their face.

If you would like to contribute to our year-long "celebration" of Darwin's 200th birthday, please send your articles, editorials, or any other creative and informative pieces to nvclub108@gmail.com

by Club 108 (noreply@blogger.com) at February 11, 2009 08:00 AM

Kurma dasa, AU : Something Sticky in the Hills

kurma in action:

Australian Traveller's Beth Peglar visits the new Sticky Rice Cooking School in the Adelaide Hills and discovers the perfect balance of food, design, flavours and personalities. More...

by Kurma at February 11, 2009 06:12 AM

Ekendra dasa, AU : An Easy Way to Help Victims of Bush Fires

For Australian families: Wait until Friday and do your grocery shopping at Cole's.

Coles has contributed food and other assistance to authorities co-ordinating relief efforts in affected areas and will donate this Friday's profits from its 750 stores nationally to the Victoria bushfires appeal.

from news.com.au

by Ekendra Dasa at February 11, 2009 04:48 AM

Ekendra das, Alachua, USA : the Car Wash of Life


My wife got this crazy good lotion from Whole Foods in Philly or DC on our last trip North. Kokum Something-Or-Other. It wasn’t quite a gazillion dollars an ounce, but it was way more than a non-metro guy would spend.

Thing is, it works really well. I just put some on after spending a half hour scrubbing pots. We had a big feasty feast; she made these fluffy “Grandma rolls” with seitan gravy.

She said, “Guess why I call them Grandma rolls.”

I said, “they’re Grandma rolls because they’re soft and warm and snuggly, like Grandma.”

“that’s not the reason I had i mind, but you have a point there.”

Anyway, I put this lotion on. I have to put lotion on every day in winter, when my skin gets dry. If I don’t, it cracks, which hurts. Part of the reason is the lingering effects of chemotherapy. Another part is heredity.

When I last visited my grandfather in the hospital, just a couple of days before he left this world, I noticed the skin on his arms was so thin and brittle looking, like the crust that forms on the surface of a pot of clarifying butter. Like any moment, it could tear, and take forever to close up and heal.

I look at my arms, and wonder if that’s going to be my fate as well. Why shouldn’t it? I’ve got his goofy sense of humor, his bunyons, his musical ability, his perfectionism. .. at least I stay away from cigars.

It’s the same thing–the skin issue, I mean–with bathing every day.

Every day, I take a shower. Afterwards, I feel brand new, glowing, reconditioned..

I wake up after the mini-death of sleep, re-animate my corpse with a few splashes of water, put on my lotion, and I feel like I’ve been through the car wash of life, like my motor is going to run much better now.

When you’re young, everybody looks good; they’ll never look better in fact. When you get older, the goal of cleaning and grooming isn’t so much to look as stunningly gorgeous as the law will allow but not to offend anybody. If we achieve that, we think we’re really on top of our game.

by ekendradasa at February 11, 2009 04:16 AM

Japa Group : If You Love Your Guru

Hare Krsna everyone. Recently I received a very nice interview given by H.H. Tamal Krsna Goswami which brought back something I think about almost everyday when chanting. The importance of chanting to satisfy the spiritual master and also our commitment with him. I hope you get something from it and you are able to appreciate this teaching.

"Without developing a spirit of service, chanting the holy name is in vain. Real devotion can be cultivated only when one receives the blessings of anunalloyed devotee. . . . Therefore to give up namaparadha one must firstgive up sadhu-ninda, or finding faults with the devotees."
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura

1. If you love your guru, chant nice rounds.

2. There are different ways you can chant sixteen rounds. You can chant very intensely; you can actually see if it is possible to chant without letting your mind deviate once in sixteen rounds. Let's see someone undergo that test.

3. Similarly, someone may get an order, an instruction, or even a general instruction to the devotees. Are you going to take it? Are you going to take it seriously, to heart, as your life and soul, or are you going to take it lightly?

4. Each of us should know that every morning when you chant your rounds, it is the most intimate service that you are offering to your spiritual master. It is the actual service that he asked of you at the time when you were initiated.

5. This chanting of Hare Krsna is the basis on which your spiritual master has accepted you as his disciple. You should remember when you chant every morning, "I am offering this very intimate service to my spiritual master."

6. My godbrother Visnujana used to sit and chant with a blown-up picture of Srila Prabhupada's ear. So, we are chanting for our spiritual master's pleasure.

7. Everything we are doing is for our spiritual master's pleasure.

8. Tatra laulyam api mulyam ekalam--the only price is hankering: "I want You." There is no other necessity but the heart's hankering--hankering for Him, hankering for His service. That should be our mood when we chant our rounds.

9. Just hear the sound vibration--that's the best chanting of all. There are different levels of recommendations, but you will see as you advance that the best chanting is when you simply hear the holy name, which is Krsna. And that is service to Krsna.

10. In Hari-nama-cintamani it is said that inattentive chanting leads to all the other of the ten offenses.

11. Chant sixteen rounds with full concentration, preferably sitting in one place, fully absorbed in hearing the sound vibration. Thus very quickly you will get krsna-prema and become a strong devotee. Take this to heart.

12. Our morning program (chanting) is like an inoculation to protect ourselves when associating with diseased persons throughout the day.

13. Service begins with hearing and chanting. It begins with hearing and chanting and ends with hearing and chanting. Hearing and chanting go on in the beginning, and they go on in the liberated stage. In the spiritual world the devotees are expert in hearing and chanting Krsna's glories. That is always there.

Well, my dear devotees, I think in these topics you can find everything we have been talking about for more than a year and the summary is simple and completely explained - it's really valuable to do a poster with them and put in a visible place to be always looking. I may do it myself, so I can always be reminded of what I should do everyday while chanting.
Hoping you have been enjoying your week of chanting and getting such nice realisations from Nama Prabhu's association.

your servant,

Aruna dd

by Aruna (noreply@blogger.com) at February 11, 2009 04:05 AM

H.G. Sankarshan das Adhikari, USA : Wednesday 11 February 2009--Patience is Required

One of the most essential qualities which must be developed in the hearts of those who are serious about perfecting the science of bhakti is the quality of patience. We have to be patient in terms of our personal progress and in terms of other's acceptance of Krishna consciousness as well. Just as we cannot expect ourselves to become immediately fully...

by course@ultimateselfrealization.com at February 11, 2009 03:30 AM

Maddy Jean-claude Durr, New Govardhana, AU : A Big Chunk of Ladu

Thursday, 8th Jan, 2009. I awoke in good time. Breakfast time! We honoured an ecstatic breaky with a serious side of mango milk shake. Actually I think the meal was the side for the mango milk shake in my case. I was so intoxicated with mango milk shake that I didn’t even realise it was ekodasi. After breakfast our mother from our house we were staying brought up my diary. “Prabhu I really like your diary but you need too…” “Edit it right? So I have been told.” “Yes well there are no paragraphs.” “Excuse me? Where are you reading my diaries?” “Planet ISKCON Prabhu.”

I had only just found out the day before that people were reading my crazy diary now all over the world but now I have found that they are reading it in a crazy block. It was like 9 inch square chunk of ladu. Normally this would concern me but on tour there is no time for concern, only for eating such ladus. There is also concern if I am spelling ladu correctly.

So we were off. And it was a rush. Domo was out and communicating by a mobile device. He was asking for his “shirt”. I was struggling (as per usual) to locate this object of his. In the end it was a sure sign that we were missing Vana from Polish Tour. Vana would translate Domo to me and Me to Domo. Domo was actually after his “shoes” not “shirt”. Ki jai. After a lot of time wasted Domo got his maha lotus shoes.

Next step was the drop off. We went to our hall in local Brisbane City. I dropped the parachute troopers and I was sent in….that direction?…to find parking. What parking? No parking on this street? Or the next block? Or the next main road? Or the next suburb? I decided to drive back to the hall, talk to a security guard and park in the back parking lot. The only price was to greet the guard lady every time I saw her, talk aimlessly about my car still being parked there and all these formalities.

I ran and hid in the foyer. I had not had enough ladu to deal with this day. In fact I had had no ladu. Where is the ladu? Me and Mathura, who also hadn’t had access to ladus, were browsing around the book table (make that 2 tables!) trying to rest and be busy at the same time (does anyone know how to do that yet?). Domo changed the plans and we went for a drive. We drove a little further than I did looking for parks. The traffic had to wait for Domo to get his chips. We had something safety tagged and the man wrote me out a receipt while chewing down his meat sandwich. Ki Jai!

There was no time to sit around. Well there was after we went for a walk to get a can of spray. It would have helped that I had an ID (you need ID in Australia to purchase drugs, knives, pray paint and small children). In the end my honest look of complete forgetfulness got me through. I found myself minding the hall/using my laptop while everyone went for lunch. An official came in to tell me a lot of useless information about fire alarms, venue capacity and all other things that are only useful to save human lives. She was very worried that someone might light incense or ghee lamps but I reassured her that we would behave and pretend we weren’t crazy cultists from the future.

Upon returning Sadhu had epic tails of Srikan and I knew I had broken the first rule of the tour commandment. Thou shalt make lunch on time. I went to Govindas by foot but it was too late. I arrived as some mothers downed the last litres of srikan. It is always interesting that people tend to go up a sari size on ekodasi when it’s quite clearly about eating raw food and becoming emaciated. There was some attempt at apology but I was not insulted…as long as I found a convenience store and got myself some kettle chips. The real reason Krsna made ekodasi was to keep kettle in business till the next satya yuga.

Govindas was good for a few other things besides prasad honouring in the end. We took a photo of someone who fell asleep and I got to catch up with Mothers Jambavati and Carmella who had made their way up from Syd to get back into tour. I led the army to the hall armed with my mighty bag of chips. I showed them the quick and painless way to the hall. Upon heading back out I found mother Rajesvari diddle dawdling far behind. She had gone back for some prasad for me! I was touched.

I decided to reward her with a guided tour of the hall before I honoured the whole bucket by myself. By guided I meant I felt like seeing if I could actually find the hall from the front entrance rather than going in the back way. It was a lot of running around up and down stairs and a sneak peak of some other halls in the building. In the end we submitted and asked someone directions. What a party poop.

Mmmmmm potato. Ekodasi is the one day that people make potato taste good. It is must as it’s the closest thing that resembles food besides various traditional cheeses. Just after potatoes I got my first gist of the locals. I caught up with Vishnu from New Govardhana back stage. Our conversation was cut short when I was asked to escort Gurudeva into the foyer of the show. I am still unsure why I am asked to take people anywhere but it happened.

Before mentioning the likelihood of normally getting lost I will mention the circumstances. There are four entrances to the building, each had a lobby that is identical, I don’t like reading signs and there is renovations on the floor beneath the show. So where are we? Fortunately Maharaja was to transcendental to realise how totally confused I was but I think it was some excitement for him. Mission successful in the end.

I bumped into Shyam from New Gokul in the foyer. I think he’s stalking me. I rushed off to save the catching up for later. It was play time. There was an impressive light show. We had some extra lighting courtesy the local venue. It was epilepticly exquisite. I took some time after the show to reset my eyes in our immaculate changing rooms. Indradyumna Swami returned. He was feeling a little nervous before the speech. This was one of those intimate moments you only get on tour (and then blab it to everyone on my diary). I spotted a small dab of tilak on his cheek and brushed it off for him.

Before I knew it I ended up back on stage. I was setting up maharaja’s seat…and water too. When things go crazy I am used as a back. Fortunately the norm didn’t happen and it didn’t go crazy. For once I did something right. In other word, Krsna had his hand in this one.

After the show there was an epic book session. Our double table was buzzing double time. We sliced off 22 Cds from our collection. There were many asks where our local centre was. There was one lady from England. She was deciding which book would suit her. I was pushing the Gita until I realized it made no difference. She pulled the usual line “can I get this at your centre where I live?” except she was talking about the Manor in England. She purchased the SSR for travel purpose and purchased Chant and Be Happy for Gaura to autograph (for his performance of Krsna). She had Indradyumna Swami sign her other book and told the guys she was going to buy Gita when she got home. Gaura invited her to come to the parikrama Kartika in Vrindavan.

I caught up with Shyam and Nandini after the book table buzzed a little quieter. Just at the end Maha Mantra rocked onto the scene. He was talking to Dina Dayal and both of them were looking to go to Mayapur for Gaurapurnim. I was excited as I was booked to be there also. There were to be a few boys to make trouble with this year it seemed.

We had a grand ekodasi feast up late to celebrate. We scuttled our ways into our vehicles and headed home. It would normally be a short drive but we found our way around epic detours as the main road was totally blocked off for some night work. We powered home with some good memories of the show. There were lovely devotees and lovely devotees to come from one of our more spectacular shows. We were set to do something rare in tour routine also. That was sleep before the next day officially started. It was an early night for the introspective sages and plenty of thoughts of upcoming ecstasies. I don’t think ladu is for ekodasi after all.

by Maddy Jean-claude Durr at February 11, 2009 03:22 AM

Ekendra dasa, AU : Evolution? Not quite.

Someone challenged. "I say we have evolved from monkeys." to which Srila Prabhupada countered." Where is the the question of evolution? I say you are still monkeys." (Monkey mentality)

by Ekendra Dasa at February 11, 2009 03:12 AM

Sita-pati dasa, AU : From the Victoria Firezone

Up to 300 people are dead in the worst bush fires in Australia's European history. The fires continue to burn in the state of Victoria. Entire towns have been wiped off the map. In one town up to 20% of the inhabitants have perished. Firefighters are coming into the state from as far away as New Zealand to fight the fires.

Day time temperatures in the region have reached 47 degrees Celsius. At night they plunge to as low as 7 degrees.

Here is a photo from the fire zone. Koalas are generally very shy creatures and do not interact with humans. They also obtain their liquids by eating eucalyptus leaves and rarely drink water.

The CFA is the Country Fire Authority [website], responsible for the full-time and volunteer fire brigades in the rural areas of the state of Victoria.

The song "Gurvastakam" by Visvanath Chakravarti Thakura describes material existence itself as a blazing forest fire - samsara davanala-lidha-loka. Since material existence is all we have experience of we discriminate between good and bad experiences and states of being within it. Visvanatha describes them all, however, as minute gradations of the same bad - he compares it to a salt mine where everything tastes like salt. Similarly all situations in the material world, whether considered good or bad in mundane terms, are unfavorable in absolute terms. Just like our Koala friend here. We could say that this picture is good or nice, but when you look at the overall situation that they are in, it's pretty much all bad right now.

Another example is being waterboarded at Guantanamo bay - when they let your head out of the bucket and let you breathe you experience that as "good" - but is it really? It's quite relative.

So Visvanatha, and the wider Vedic tradition, claim that life in this body, experienced as the interaction of the senses of the body with the objects of the senses, may be considered relatively good or bad, but it is absolutely bad, compared to another, as-yet unexperienced reality. They also offer a process to be able to experience that other reality directly, in this lifetime (pratyaksavagamam dharmyam). I can't say that I've experienced more than a glimpse of it, but I can say that the idea and their explanation of it is sufficiently intriguing and superficially credible, and my own experience so far sufficiently encouraging to keep me pursuing it.

As Srila B.R. Sridhara Maharaja put it: "I won't be so bold as to say that I've seen God, but I've seen signs along the way and I am encouraged."

by sitapati at February 11, 2009 01:49 AM

February 10, 2009

Sita-pati dasa, AU : What are you reading?

How many words of text on web pages do you think will be read this year in the US and other first-world countries with similar Internet penetration? How do you think that compares with the number of words that will be read from books in the same time period by those same people?

-
The once and future e-book: on reading in the digital age

by sitapati at February 10, 2009 11:49 PM

Bharatavarsa.net : Prabhupada letters

1966 February 10: "His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada's advent ceremony. The following letters delivered personally at the respective offices: New York Times, New York Herald Tribune, New York News Daily and Sunday."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1966

February 10, 2009 11:20 PM

Bharatavarsa.net : Prabhupada letters

1970 February 10: "Your attitude of humbleness and meekness in the service is the only qualification which can lead us to upper grade of Krishna Consciousness, and this is the version of Lord Caitanya."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1970

February 10, 2009 11:20 PM

Bharatavarsa.net : Prabhupada letters

1973 February 10: "If there are any defects within our Society it is only symptom that the instructions of the Spiritual Master are being neglected."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1973

February 10, 2009 11:20 PM

Vrndavana Vinodini dd, Toronto, Canada : Nityananda's Appearance Day

Last Saturday was the most glorious appearance day of Lord Nityananda. Lord Nityananda is the personification of mercy and as such his appearance day rained mercy upon one and all! That rain visibly appeared during the abhishek when various substances were poured upon Nitai. Buckets upon buckets of various ingredients were poured upon Nitai as he smilingly accepted everything. From yogurt to colored water, coconut water to freshly squeezed grape juice, Nitai looked resplendent no matter what was covering him.











by Vrndavana Vinodini dd (noreply@blogger.com) at February 10, 2009 10:51 PM

H.H. Bhaktimarg Swami : Tuesday, February 10th, 2009

Dear Readers

I am sorry I have not been able to update the walking adventure, there is a good reason. For the time being my walking has come to a halt and I am confined to a hospital bed in Burlington. I received an infection on the right foot after an encounter with a catfish. I am spending time to heal the foot.

As I am looking out the window of the hospital room overlooking Lake Ontario, it's a beautiful scene, there are geese that fly by my window and below I can see a park. I can see the home of the famous historian Joseph Brant. I can see people walking and I envy them somewhat. How we take our feet for granted.

The foot is somewhat painful but I will get through it by God's grace. I have not logged any kilometres since last Wednesday when I was in Guyana on the beach. I only hobble to the toilet. That's the only walking I do. But certainly increasing Mantra Meditation. If you have time a little prayer for my recovery will be much appreciated.

Your servant,
Bhaktimarga Swami

by Bhaktimarga Swami (noreply@blogger.com) at February 10, 2009 10:37 PM

Bharatavarsa.net : Bhakti Vikasa Swami: By humility you can take over the whole world

Srila Prabhupada once told this to Hamsadutta Prabhu, who told it to Manidhar Prabhu, who relayed it to me.

February 10, 2009 09:11 PM

Nitya Navina dd, New Jersey, USA : Gauranga (Golden) Jubilee.

Every occasion is an opportunity to glorify Krishna. Today happens to be the starting of the fiftieth year of marriage of my parents. The golden Jubilee year. Interestingly, i was reading the meaning of Jubilee and came across this on the Webster's dictionary. Though it means a special anniversary, this one struck as a more apt meaning especially when in reference to marriage anniversary :"A

by noreply@blogger.com (kinkari) at February 10, 2009 07:45 PM

Akrura das, Gita Coaching : GITA COACHING JOURNEY


If you take Gita Coaching seriously, it can bring you from hopelessness to an unbreakable enthusiasm and determination.

by Akrura@pamho.net (akrura@pamho.net) at February 10, 2009 07:25 PM

David Haslam, UK : Sex life and sexual desire

Thus the wise living entity’s pure consciousness becomes covered by his eternal enemy in the form of lust, which is never satisfied and which burns like fire.   PURPORT It is said in the Manu-smrti that lust cannot be satisfied by any amount of sense enjoyment, just as fire is never extinguished by a constant supply of fuel. [...]

by WordPress at February 10, 2009 05:26 PM

Madhava Ghosh dasa, New Vrndavan, USA : Humility and Self Effacement


“3) One should chant the holy name of the Lord in a humble state of mind, thinking oneself lower than the straw in the street; one should be more tolerant than a tree, devoid of all sense of false prestige, and should be ready to offer all respect to others. In such a state of mind one can chant the holy name of the Lord constantly.”

Sri Sri Siksastakam

“What is it that makes a [human] life “divine”? Surely if this special quality characterizes [a human being], it must in some sense be recognizable. The “divine” life is, in fact, characterized by a faith which frees [a human being] from all forms of servitude, even and perhaps especially in religious matters (see [Paul's epistle to the] Galatians’ passim).

“This faith brings [a human being] under the direct guidance of the Holy Spirit of love living in the Church of God. The “divine” [human being], or the “son [and daughter] of God,” is then, paradoxically marked by a great humility and self-effacement. He [or she] is not violent but forgiving and kind (Matthew 5:43-48). He [or she] is free from any need for aggressive self-assertion. He [or she] does not worry about his [or her] own needs, but trusts completely in God for everything (Matthew 6: 19-34).

“The [human being] who leads a “divine” life is, then a perfect son [and daughter] of God in imitation of Christ, who in all things looked only to the will and love of His Father. The divine [human being] lives in constant contact with an inner source of divine life, or as Meister Eckhart would have said, with ‘the divine birth within us.’ “

Thomas Merton. Love and Living. Naomi Burton Stone & Patrick Hart, editors (New York: Harcourt, Brace, Jonvanovich, 1985): 108-109.

Posted in Thomas Merton

by Madhava Gosh at February 10, 2009 05:02 PM

Madhava Ghosh dasa, New Vrndavan, USA : The Ocean: Most and Least Lasting of Experiences


“So when Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, “These material elements,” bhumir apo ‘nalo vayuh [Bg. 7.4], earth, water, fire, air, they are My energies, so if one has studied Krsna, then as soon as He sees a great ocean, He sees Krsna: “Oh, this is Krsna’s energy.” As soon as sees a big anything, fire, water, anything, He sees Krsna, nothing but Krsna because He knows.”

Room Conversation With Three College Students — July 11, 1973, London

During the last period of below normal temperatures we received some snow, then it got just warm enough in the atmosphere so it rained but  was freezing as fast as it hit the ground, covering the exiting snow and all shrubs and trees with a layer of ice. After that we got more snow.

After another week or so of below average weather we had enough of a warm  day that the surface snow in our front yard melted, but because it couldn’t drain through the ice, refroze during the night.

The next morning dawned clear and warm. The sun was bright and low in the sky so its reflection was scintillating off the ice, golden in hue and almost blinding. It reminded me of the sun reflected off water anywhere, but especially off the ocean  when we recently visited the Gulf Coast of Florida.

sunshine-ocean

A regular camera just can’t do justice to the goldenness of it, it is too bright to record, the image is washed, but I am sure you have seen what I am talking about.

For those living near or traveling to bodies of water on a regular basis, this may be the same old same old, but for me it was quite wonderful and a great memory to visit.

Standing by the ocean on a sandy beach is like being at the corner of Ephemeral Street and Eternal Avenue.

On the one hand there is this completely primal experience being in the raw presence of  pure unmanifest earth in the bare beach, fire in the form of the sun,  air in the form of wind, and water.

When I stand on a sandy beach looking out across the ocean, I am seeing and experiencing exactly the same thing men have experienced for thousands and/or millions of years.   Even if the consumer society continues to careen to destroying all life forms on the planet, sun on the ocean will continue to look golden and wind will make waves which will sweep the beach clean. It is eternal as it gets in the material world.

Yet, simultaneously, the beach  is the most ephemeral of places.   Tracks made by passersby will be gone in a matter of minutes, or when the tide next changes.  Even standing where the waves came in I could feel the sand being eroded from around my feet as the water receded.

Everything that comes to that beach is soon washed away.  What could be more transient than the footprint of a tourist on a beach walking where the waves are lapping?

Even  this blog post with a picture of the ocean, although enshrined in some server somewhere,  will eventually be lost — if not sooner, than later.

The ocean’s edge, at once both  the most enduring and the most transient place on the planet.  Easy to see Krishna there.

scintillating sea
in the sand footprints
of a tourist

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by Madhava Gosh at February 10, 2009 04:42 PM

Kripamoya dasa, UK : No Recession in the Holy Name Market Trading


On Friday evening I went to our temple in the west end of London. It was Nityananda Prabhu’s appearance day on the Saturday, and I’d been asked to give the morning class. So I thought I’d stay overnight so that I could have good japa meditation through the morning. The alternative was to struggle with London Underground connections early in the morning or to drive to the city. Neither appealed to me - as neither of them help to focus the mind on the Holy Names.

The brahmacaris have a flat a few minutes walk from the temple and they’d made me up a bed in a room overlooking the chimney pots of London. I awoke at 3.30 am and was surprised to find that many other people were already awake and celebrating in the streets outside. Then I remembered: this is the ‘city that never sleeps’ and what was my early Saturday morning was still their Friday night! I walked to the temple chanting and arrived in time for the first service of the day: mangala-arati.

Now, I must confess that I am accustomed to walk while chanting my daily rounds of japa. This has been my practise for many years. On this occasion though, I sat and chanted for over an hour and my legs remained peaceful.

I led the devotees in one of my favourite songs, Dalalera Gita, or ‘The Song of the Broker,’ which compares the great soul Nityananda to a market trader in that bazaar - hatta - where there is only one commodity: the holy name of Lord Krishna. His price is simply the shraddha - faith - of the devotee and in this type of trading both buyer and seller make their profit. No recession in the Nama Hatta.

Due to the enthusiasm of the devotees I spoke for two hours, after which I had private talks with other members. The temple was crowded for the abhisheka, (the ceremonial bathing of Gaura-Nityananda) the home-made theatre, and feast. In the evening I gave another class to a fresh group of congregation members then led the sandhya-arati. Here in London this is a very lively event and the temple was packed.

On this day we all had a chance to remember parama karuna, the merciful Lord Nityananda, by whose grace we can come closer to Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

by deshika at February 10, 2009 04:35 PM

Mayapur Online : Every day Gaura Purnima Updates

11 Feb 2009: From tomorrow (12 Feb) onwards, annual GBC meetings will begin in Sri dham Mayapur. GBC meetings will continue until 23rd of February. Many Sanyasis and GBC’s have arrived in Mayapur. Though Gaura Purnima festival will be officially will be inaugurated on 24th February, many devotees plan their arrival much ahead of the festival to take full advantage of the great opportunity to have association of senior members of ISKCON and get to hear the special lectures.

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by gopijana at February 10, 2009 03:37 PM

Japa Group : Please Join the Japa Group

Please share your realisations with other devotees from around the world...simply send me an introduction email and I will be happy to make you a member:

rasa108@gmail.com

ys

Rasa Rasika das

by Rasa Rasika (noreply@blogger.com) at February 10, 2009 02:28 PM

1973 February 10 : "We must not lower our position but we must educate others to come up to our standards. "
Prabhupada Letters :: 1973

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 10, 2009 02:08 PM

1973 February 10 : "Each GBC man can act as my secretary for one month at a time as I originally planned. In this way you will all be trained up nicely."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1973

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 10, 2009 02:07 PM

1973 February 10 : "The women must be protected and it is the duty of the leaders of our Society to see that this is carried out."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1973

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 10, 2009 02:07 PM

1973 February 10 : "I want that Mayapur be self-sufficient by having its own production of grains, vegetables, fruits and milk products, etc. This will be better than trying to arrange for maintenance funds to come from outside."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1973

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 10, 2009 02:06 PM

1967 February 10 : "Accept Krishna as your Husband and He will never cheat you. So remain busy in the service of your Husband and you will be happy in this life as well as in the next."
Letters :: 1967

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 10, 2009 02:06 PM

1973 February 10: "If there are any defects within our Society it is only symptom that the instructions of the Spiritual Master are being neglected."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1973

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 10, 2009 02:04 PM

1970 February 10: "Your attitude of humbleness and meekness in the service is the only qualification which can lead us to upper grade of Krishna Consciousness, and this is the version of Lord Caitanya."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1970

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 10, 2009 02:02 PM

1966 February 10: "His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada's advent ceremony. The following letters delivered personally at the respective offices: New York Times, New York Herald Tribune, New York News Daily and Sunday."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1966

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 10, 2009 02:01 PM

Ravindra Svarupa das, USA : Conviction


Doubt is the motor of the modern mentality, the indefatigable engine that drives the spirit of our age. Such doubt was honored with an early recognition in the essays of the Renaissance courtier Michel de Montaigne: “We are, I know not how, double within ourselves, with the result that we do not believe what we believe, and we cannot rid ourselves of what we condemn.”

During Montaigne’s time, religious wars of unbearable cruelty rent Europe. The absolute certainty of the raging antagonists began to taint conviction itself with bad odor. But Montaigne saw deeper. He descried the doubleness within the very certitude of the religious partisans. He recognized their zeal as a kind of cover up, overcompensation for a hidden, an unacknowledged, lack of faith: “We do not believe what we believe.”

In modern times, disbelief has so far entered into the essence of our existence, that both faithlessness and faith have become fundamentally two varieties of faithlessness.

It is the secret unbelief of true believers that energizes the armies of the night in Mathew Arnold’s poem of 1867:

The Sea of Faith
Was once, too, at the full, and round earth’s shore
Lay like the folds of a bright girdle furled.
But now I only hear
Its melancholy, long, withdrawing roar,
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
And we are here as on a darkling plain
Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight,
Where ignorant armies clash by night.

William Butler Yeats delivers the ominous news in his prophetic, apocalyptic 1919 poem “The Second Coming”:

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Others, of course, celebrated unbelief—it bestows liberation—and proselytized it. Leave it to Friedrich Nietzsche to push it as a jagged little pill: “Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies.” (Aphorism 483, Human, All Too Human: 1878 )

So it happened that, as a child of the times, and all too human, I swallowed the pill. I served at the altar of doubt. Unbelief became my credo.

It took half a dozen years in academia for me to recognize that unbelief—skepticism, relativism, nihilism—had itself become dogma. Departments of religion were pledging themselves en masse to the hermeneutics of suspicion. To confess any conviction other than mistrust of all convictions was to court anathema.

All joined in choir to hymn unwavering faith in faithlessness. This dogmatism began to rankle me. Something was wrong. I brooded, irritably.

And then, my breakthrough: We doubters were failing at doubt. We had failed to take our doubt far enough. If we are going to be thoroughly skeptical, then we must be also skeptical about our own skepticism. If all things are relative, then so must be our relativism itself.

I stated my case at an informal religion department gathering.

“You must feel like you’re walking a tightrope over an abyss,” responded a fellow grad student, only recently a nun.
“Yeah, but I’m not sure there’s a rope either,” I said. Everyone laughed.

Let us be bold enough to remove the very ground we stand on and miraculously levitate on nothing.

And so we come full circle. Doubting our own doubting, we find a surprise awaiting us: a tiny crack opens for the possibility of faith.

Just the possibility. Even less—just the openness to the possibility.

This turns out to be a crack even God can squeeze through.

One thing led to another. Several years after the manifestation of the crack, I joined—to my permanent amazement—a high-demand “organized religion.” A religion committed to preaching. Labeled by one academic as “evangelical Hinduism.” (For a systematically misleading expression, this is spot on.)

Then came a time, fifteen or twenty years later, that I realized that I was utterly and completely certain that, as they say, “God exists.” (For a systematically misleading expression, this is spot on.) I did not merely hold that a feasible case for divine existence could be made, that “God exists” can be reasonably affirmed, that the assertion is true with (of course) the possibility that it just might be false. Not at all. I was absolutely, totally certain.

This upset me.

I’m still a modern person. I assailed my own conviction: How could I be so sure? What right did I have to be so certain? How was it possible? How was I entitled to such a degree of certitude? What was wrong with me?

I attacked my own faith, and it repelled my assaults. I couldn’t shake it. It was as if it were simply there of its own accord, an irrevocable fact; it really didn’t depend upon me.

I put the matter before some judicious devotees. “It’s Kṛṣṇa’s causeless mercy,” said one. “It’s a gift,” said another. A Ph.D. who once taught Christian theology to divinity students, she cited the distinction between certainty and certitude.

These conversations relieved me of my anxiety and allowed me to accept the gift wholeheartedly.

Yet—not to look the gift horse in the mouth—I found myself still impelled to understand better what I had been given.

I began my inquiry with this question: Is there anything at all that every person can be absolutely certain of? The question, of course, summoned me back to the origins of modernity, to the very “father of modern philosophy,” Rene Descartes, who turned Montaigne’s doubt into a methodology. Sweeping away, in his Discourse on Method, everything dubitable, he was left with only his own indubitable existence as a cognizant being. He could doubt everything except that he was doubting. Cogito, ergo sum, he famously wrote: “I think, therefore I am.” Descartes explained that by “thought” he meant “what happens in me such that I am immediately conscious of it, insofar as I am conscious of it.” His own existence as a conscious subject was absolutely certain.

Here I got my own clue and cue: Start, like Descartes, with myself.

But in this, it seemed to me, I was able to be more clear that Descartes. To “start with myself” means, to be precise, to start with ātman, the conscious self.

Continued Next Week…

by rsdasa at February 10, 2009 12:22 PM

Gaura Vani, USA : Rocking in the New Year at Radha Govinda Mandir

 Sri Sri Radha Govinda (Photo by Adideva Cuffee) Sri Sri Radha Govinda (Photo by Adideva Cuffee)

Midnight came not with the striking of a clock, but with the blowing of a conch-shell. The auspicious sound rang through the temple room of Radha Govinda Mandir and announced that a new year had come. Everyone began to dance as the kirtan started.

Gaura Leads into the New Year Dancing through Midnight

It soon became a kirtan where no one led and the leader would simply rotate to whoever had the microphone for that specific mantra. There was joy and excitement in the air, ushering in this New Year that everyone had high hopes for. People danced back and forth, in circles and with their arms raised. Everyone sang as loudly as they could. We prayed for the blessings of our spiritual masters so that we would be able to carry on this year and be the best that we could.

Happy New Year! In training Mrdanga player.

Some rededicated themselves to what they held dearest in their lives. I took another look at how blessed I truly was just to be able to do kirtan all the time, even if it wasn’t everyday or what I was able to do for my full-time job. It was clear that people were ready for 2009. I hope that we all make plans to live more, love more, show our joy more fully and engage in kirtan completely.

Live your kirtan!
Acyuta Gopi

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by acyuta.gopi at February 10, 2009 12:00 PM

Gaura Vani, USA : New Year’s Eve at CoSM

 

L to R: Ray Ipoolito talking with Sri Syam and Gaura Vani before the show. L to R: Sri Shyam on electric drums, Gaura Vani on flute and Ray Ippolito on guitar.

We were invited by our dear friend Ray Ippolito to perform at the Chapel of the Sacred Mirrors (CoSM) one last time on New Year’s eve. This being the last time because CoSM is closing down it’s location in Manhattan to Upstate NY. We had a great jam session with master of bass and drums Sri Shyam and Gaura Vani on flute, vocals and harmonium. (more…)

by rasa.acharya at February 10, 2009 11:45 AM

ISKCON Toronto, Canada : Nityananda's Appearance Day Celebrations

This past Saturday, ISKCON Toronto, the Hare Krishna Centre, celebrated the Appearance Day of Lord Nityananda. This particular festival continues to be a favourite for local devotees and this year's festival was marked by some special features. 

The program began with blissful kirtan led by Dhira Grahi das as devotees took in the sight of the beautifully dressed Deities during the 6:00pm arati . This was followed by a lecture on the glories of Lord Nityananda by HG Rupanuga Das. After the lecture devotees were treated to a mini-dramatic piece depicting the pastimes of Lord Nityananda.

The theme of this years festival was was the bhajan Nitai-Pada-Kamala which states "the lotus feet of Lord Nityananda are a shelter where one will get the soothing moonlight not only of one, but of millions of moons". 

During the culmination of the dramatic piece strings of lanterns representing the millions of moons were hung across a pitch black temple room, creating a serene atmosphere as HG Ajamila das led kirtan leading into an ecstatic 8:00pm arati.

View the Festival Photo Gallery Below:

by Vijay Teli (noreply@blogger.com) at February 10, 2009 11:13 AM

ISKCON Klang, Malaysia : Nityananda Trayodasi in Klang

BY JEYANTHY PILLAI KLANG, MALAYSIA - An intricately designed white dress with Holy Names sewn in various languages spoken here in Malaysia was embroidered  by our expert seamstress HG Vimala Madhavi mataji for Nityananda Trayodasi. The ‘Hare Krishna’ mahamantra was written in English, Malayalam, Telugu and Tamil on all the dresses of the deities here. White [...]

by jeyanthy at February 10, 2009 10:17 AM

Manoj, Melbourne, AU : 116. The affected animals - Victorian Bushfire


Reaching out to everyone who needs help

Reaching out to everyone who needs help

That photo came from the Parks Indigenous Officer and this accompanying text:

“The Ash Wednesday Fires in South Australia and Victoria in 1983 burnt 2,000 square kilometres. 260,000 farm animals died or had to be destroyed. And billions of wildlife perished, as well as their habitats.  Just a one acre fire will burn literally millions of animals from insects and spiders to skinks, lizards, snakes, and nesting birds and all the small mammals that cannot flee, like echidnas, koalas and possums. As well as the damage to native animals’ homes and food supply, there is of course the immense destruction to homes & property and loss and suffering of domestic pets and human life”.

This current bushfire is the worst the country has seen. If you would like to help out the suffering animals in any capacity, please visit: http://www.rspcavic.org/campaigns_news/news_bushfires.htm

by 9days8nights at February 10, 2009 09:34 AM

ISKCON Klang, Malaysia : Glorification of Sri Nityananda Rama

BY GAURAV MOHNOT Bhaktivedanta Book Trust INDIA — What follows is a small collection of verses and bhajans in glorification of Sri Nityananda Rama. This collection is far from being exhaustive and complete, for Nityananda Prabhu’s glories are unlimited! Even Ananta-sesa, with His thousands of mouths, has been speaking the glories of Nityananda Prabhu since the beginning [...]

by jeyanthy at February 10, 2009 07:24 AM

Subuddhi Krishna dasa, Chicago, USA : Srimad Bhagavatam Analogy - 59


Seeing the Lord present before them, King Nâbhi and his priests and associates felt just like poor people who have suddenly attained great riches. They received the Lord and respectfully bent their heads and offered Him things in worship.

Srimad Bhagavatam - Canto 5 Chapter 3 Verse 3


by Subuddhi Krishna das, Chicago (noreply@blogger.com) at February 10, 2009 06:47 AM

Krishna Dharma dasa, UK : The glories of the Six Goswamis

Sri Sri Sad-gosvamy-astaka

By Srila Srinivasa Acharya

1.
krsnotkirtana-gana-nartana-parau premamrtambho-nidhi
dhiradhira-jana-priyau priya-karau nirmatsarau pujitau
sri-caitanya-krpa-bharau bhuvi bhuvo bharavahantarakau
vande rupa-sanatanau raghu-yugau sri-jiva-gopalakau

Like oceans of loving ecstasy, they chant and dance in Krishna sankirtan
Granting freely Gauranga’s grace to all the world, assuaging all affliction.
Beloved to both the good and bad, worshipped by all, free from malevolence.
To Rupa, Sanatana, both Raghunathas, Gopal and Jiva, my obeisance.

2.
nana-sastra-vicaranaika-nipunau sad-dharma-samsthapakau
lokanam hita-karinau tri-bhuvane manyau saranyakarau
radha-krsna-padaravinda-bhajananandena mattalikau
vande rupa-sanatanau raghu-yugau sri-jiva-gopalakau

Expertly establishing from all scripture the essence of real religion
Shelter to all throughout all the worlds they bestow the highest benediction.
Ever enrapt with euphoria, serving Krishna in total loving trance.
To Rupa, Sanatana, both Raghunathas, Gopal and Jiva, my obeisance.

3.
sri-gauranga-gunanuvarnana-vidhau sraddha-samrddhy-anvitau
papottapa-nikrntanau tanu-bhrtam govinda-ganamrtaih
anandambudhi-vardhanaika-nipunau kaivalya-nistarakau
vande rupa-sanatanau raghu-yugau sri-jiva-gopalakau

Fully grasping Gauranga’s transcendental truths that they narrate perfectly.
Freeing all fallen souls from all of their sins by Govinda’s pure eulogy.
Growing the ocean of bhakti bliss, and from mukti, our safe deliverance.
To Rupa, Sanatana, both Raghunathas, Gopal and Jiva, my obeisance.

4.
tyakva turnam asesa-mandala-pati-srenim sada tuccha-vat
bhutva dina-ganesakau karunaya kaupina-kanthasritau
gopi-bhava-rasamrtabdhi-lahari-kallola-magnau muhur
vande rupa-sanatanau raghu-yugau sri-jiva-gopalakau

Abandoning aristocracy as meaningless, they mendicants became.
Living simply in loincloths, to save all souls from suffering their one aim.
Swimming in a sea of ecstasy, in the pure mood of the gopis’ romance.
To Rupa, Sanatana, both Raghunathas, Gopal and Jiva, my obeisance.

5.
kujat-kokila-hamsa-sarasa-ganakirne mayurakule
nana-ratna-nibaddha-mula-vitapa-sri-yukta-vrndavane
radha-krsnam ahar-nisam prabhajatau jivarthadau yau muda
vande rupa-sanatanau raghu-yugau sri-jiva-gopalakau

Always worshipping Radha Shyam in Vraja dhama, bright abode of all beauties.
Where Peacocks, swans, cranes, and cuckoos call among the gems found round flowering trees,
Bestowing the boon of life’s greatest goal upon all souls, in great jubilance.
To Rupa, Sanatana, both Raghunathas, Gopal and Jiva, my obeisance.

6.
sankhya-purvaka-nama-gana-natibhih kalavasani-krtau
nidrahara-viharakadi-vijitau catyanta-dinau ca yau
radha-krsna-guna-smrter madhurimanandena sammohitau
vande rupa-sanatanau raghu-yugau sri-jiva-gopalakau

Spending their days chanting Krishna’s name and bowing down in a regulated way.
Ever enchanted by the loveliness and love, that Radha Krishna display.
Meek and mild with subdued senses they ever were emblems of all tolerance.
To Rupa, Sanatana, both Raghunathas, Gopal and Jiva, my obeisance.

7.
radha-kunda-tate kalinda-tanaya-tire ca vamsivate
premonmada-vasad asesa-dasaya grastau pramattau sada
gayantau ca kada harer guna-varam bhavabhibhutau muda
vande rupa-sanatanau raghu-yugau sri-jiva-gopalakau

Sometimes seen around Vamsivat and Radha Kunda and by the Yamuna’s shore.
Divine symptoms of delirious love of god manifesting more and more.
Always absorbed in the glories of Govindaji in blissful song and dance.
To Rupa, Sanatana, both Raghunathas, Gopal and Jiva, my obeisance.

8.
he radhe vraja-devike ca lalite he nanda-suno kutah
sri-govardhana-kalpa-padapa-tale kalindi-vanye kutah
ghosantav iti sarvato vraja-pure khedair maha-vihvalau
vande rupa-sanatanau raghu-yugau sri-jiva-gopalakau

All around sacred Vrindavan seeking their Lord, their loud shouts were heard each day.
Dear son of Nanda, Dear Radhika, Dear Lalita, where now your wondrous play?
By Goverdhan or Yamuna’s banks, where shall we see your sports of transcendence?
To Rupa, Sanatana, both Raghunathas, Gopal and Jiva, my obeisance.

by Krishna Dharma at February 10, 2009 06:45 AM

ISKCON Melbourne, AU : Kadamba Kanana Maharaja Visits Melbourne

His Holiness Kadamba Kanana Maharaja will be preaching in Melbourne until next Sunday. He will give Bhagavatam classes at the temple in the mornings from 7:30am.

03.jpg Here is Maharaja's itinerary to date:

Tonight
Gopal's Kirtana Night (Swanston St.)

Wednesday February 11
Harinama from Crossways (Swanston St.) at 4:30pm.
Krishnafest from 6:00pm. at Urban Yoga (Level 2 above Crossways)

Friday February 13
Harinama from Crossways (Swanston St.) at 6:30pm.

Saturday February 14
Bhajans for Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada 11:00am (temple)
Class on Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada 11:30am (temple)

Sunday February 15
Sunday Feast class from 5:00pm. (temple)

by Rasanandini at February 10, 2009 05:42 AM

ISKCON Melbourne, AU : Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada's Appearance Day

Next Saturday is the Appearance anniversary of Srila Prabhupada's Guru Maharaja, Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada.

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Beginning at 11am., we will celebrate with a program glorifying Bhaktisiddhanta Prabhupada's preaching spirit. His Holiness Kadamba Kanana Maharaja will lead bhajans and give class.

Our program is as follows:
11:00am - Bhajans
11:30am - Class
12:00pm - Pushpanjali
12:30pm - Guru Puja arati
1:00pm   - Prasadam feast

Please join us.

by Rasanandini at February 10, 2009 05:15 AM

ISKCON Melbourne, AU : Nityananda Trayodasi Slide Show

Melbourne's ISKCON community joyfully celebrated Nityananda Trayodasi last Sunday.

02 P1080279.jpg Right from Mangalarati at 4:30am. till the middle of the afternoon and beyond, devotees hungry  for Nityananda Mahasaya's mercy enthusiastically engaged in His service.

You can see a slide show here. If you find that the slide screen appears blank, you may need to check your Flash Player.






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by Rasanandini at February 10, 2009 04:02 AM

H.G. Sankarshan das Adhikari, USA : Tuesday 10 February 2009--Bliss in Spite of Miseries

No matter how we analyze it this material world is a place of miseries. It has always been that way and it will always be that day. It's a world full of material forms which take birth, get sick, get old, and die. No amount of material scientific technological advancement can put a stop to the onslaught of these material miseries. So is there any way...

by course@ultimateselfrealization.com at February 10, 2009 03:30 AM

Ekendra das, Alachua, USA : Trash


It takes me a while to warm up.

No matter how jolly and jumpy the event, it generally takes me a good long time to thaw out, especially in a warm and blissful atmosphere. My initial reaction to any positive vibe is negative.

The first time I peeked through the cracks in the double doors of a Hare Krishna temple, I saw leaping people in the middle of a blazing, thundering ruckus. As i stared fearfully at the aerial stunts being performed by the whooping, hollering throng within, i very nearly got right the hell back on the bus.

A couple of days ago, we celebrated Lord Nityananda’s appearance day here in Alachua.

In the morning, I couldn’t have been more glued to the floor. I watched as others jumped and shouted with fervent enthusiasm, but I would have none of it. I hoped, for their sake, that the leaders of the kirtan didn’t attempt to pull me into their choreography. They would have had better luck trying to move a sofa. I strove for zero eye contact.

I’m picky when it comes to kirtan, too. I don’t dance to just any Tom, Dick or Hari’s singing. if you change the melody, I get cranky. If you modulate (change the key of the current melody), I get cranky. If you veer afield of the hare krishna mantra, I get cranky. Result being, I will retreat deeper and deeper into my already stone-like stupor, my face feeling more and more like it belongs on the face of Mt. Rushmore.

Yet when we went back for the evening segment of the day’s festivities, somehow I was able to loosen up. Everything changed. To my surprise and weary amusement, my wife had pledged us for cleanup duty, so obligation, rather than desire, is what dragged me back.

The evening kirtan had just begun when we arrived, and the kirtan leader was an old friend, a great singer who had grown up, in fact just a few miles from my own worship-able birthplace of Syracuse (Siberacuse, Sore Excuse) New York.

At first, I stayed in back, so I could see everybody but nobody could see me. Then I decided I wanted to see what was going on in the kirtan so I climbed up on a folding chair. The temple room was packed. I began to feel deep gratitude to be free of my earlier crust. Misery makes for good writing material, but it’s not a fun way to live.

Gradually the crowd thinned to the point where I took an opportunity to move closer to the action–the kirtan leader and the circle of drummers near the altar. I find that physical proximity to a kirtan epicenter helps me to thaw out and have a good time.

It’s probably a volume thing–rock promoters know exactly what size of speakers are required to drive rhythms through the bone marrow of writhing concertgoers– there’s something to be said about being able to feel the music in your body.

I started dancing, and I never dance. or, rarely. It takes a very special occasion.

I love to dance–I used to go like a wild man for hours during my teenage love affair with the music of the Romantics, Ramones, Elvis Costello era–but these days it takes just the right kirtan leader to allow me to relax at all.

On this particular Lord Nityananda evening, I even jumped in with the line dance–when everyone forms a pair of parallel lines which meets and parts in rhythm to the kirtan–and wound up dancing long after the crowds had excused themselves to wait in line for the feast, catch up on the transcendental gossip, refill their plates twice, and wash their hands.

My wife and I stayed late into the chilly evening and took out the trash, pausing only to pilfer any leftover lugloos. Lugloos you just don’t throw away.

I know for a fact that, if I had come with the idea that I was the one who was supposed to have a good time, I would have had a festival of disappointment. Only after I came to take out trash was I able to have any fun.

by ekendradasa at February 10, 2009 02:54 AM

Mayapur Online : Sat-sanga Seminars Schedule

This is the Schedule of the Satsang Seminars (Without Service Charges) to be held as part of the Gaura Purnima Festival 2009 in Sri Dham Mayapur.

2009 Sat-sanga Seminars

Feb 24 - 27, 2009
(Without Service Charges)

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by Kesava Candra das at February 10, 2009 01:54 AM

February 09, 2009

Bharatavarsa.net : Prabhupada letters

1969 February 9: "On hearing from you, I shall start for London by the end of this month. When I go there I am sure I shall find out a suitable temple-house."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1969

February 09, 2009 11:20 PM

Bharatavarsa.net : Prabhupada letters

1969 February 9: "I shall be very happy to know what is happening to the second issue of our Back To Godhead. I hope the new issue will be ready very soon. Please inform me what is the problem in this important matter."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1969

February 09, 2009 11:20 PM

Bharatavarsa.net : Prabhupada letters

1969 February 9: "The articles like Dr. Spock, the Beach Boys, or nonsense book reviews should be completely avoided. Avoid the hippy advertisements as far as possible."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1969

February 09, 2009 11:20 PM

Sita-pati dasa, AU : ISKCON and Gays Part 4 - Expansion, not Transformation

Last night Prahlad and I read the following in Bhaktivinode Thakur's Jaiva Dharma:

Lahiri: There are two kinds of people in this world: those who are spiritually awake and those who are spiritually unconscious. The sastras have praised secondary results for the benefit of those who are spiritually unconscious, and who do not perform any pious activity unless they can visualize a forthcoming result. However, the sastras do not intend such people to remain satisfied with secondary results; rather, their attraction to secondary results should induce them to perform virtuous acts, which will hasten their contact with sadhus. Then, by the mercy of the sadhus, they will come to know of the primary results of hari-bhajana, and taste for those results will awaken within them.

Devidasa: Then are we to understand that Raghunandana and the other authors of the smrti-sastras are spiritually unconscious?

Lahiri: No, but the system that they have prescribed is for the spiritually unconscious. However, they themselves seek the primary result.

Devidasa: Some sastras only describe the secondary results and do not mention the primary results at all. Why is this?

Lahiri: There are three types of sastra, corresponding to the varieties of adhikara (eligibility) among human beings: sattvika, of the nature of goodness; rajasika, of the nature of passion; and tamasika, of the nature of ignorance. The sattvika-sastras are for people who are imbued with the nature of goodness (sattva-guna); the rajasika-sastras are for those enveloped by the nature of passion (rajo-guna); and the tamasika-sastras are for those engrossed in the nature of ignorance (tamo-guna).

Devidasa: If that is the case, how should one know which directives of the sastra to have faith in? And how may those of lower adhikara (eligibility) attain a higher destination?

Lahiri: Human beings have different natures and faiths according to their different levels of adhikara. People who are impelled primarily by the mode of ignorance have natural faith in the tamasika-sastras. Those affected primarily by the mode of passion have natural faith in the rajasika-sastras, and those in the mode of goodness naturally have faith in the sattvika-sastras. One’s belief in a particular conclusion of the sastra is naturally in accordance with one’s faith.

As one faithfully carries out the duties for which one has the adhikara, he may come into contact with sadhus and develop a higher adhikara through their association. As soon as a higher adhikara is awakened, one’s nature is elevated, and one’s faith in a more elevated sastra will follow accordingly. The authors of the sastras were infallible in their wisdom and composed the sastras in such a way that one will gradually develop higher adhikara by carrying out the duties for which one is eligible and in which one naturally has faith. It is for this reason that different directives have been given in different sastras. Faith in the sastra is the root of all auspiciousness.

Srimad Bhagavad-Gita is the mimamsa-sastra of all the sastras. This siddhanta is clearly stated there.

Devidasa: I have studied many sastras since my childhood, but today, by your grace, I have understood their purpose in an entirely new light.

Lahiri: It is written in Srimad-Bhagavatam (11.8.10):

anubhyas ca mahadbhyas ca sastrebhyah kusalo narah
sarvatah saram adadyat puspebhya iva satpadah

An intelligent person will take the essence of all the sastras, whether they are great or small, just as a bumblebee gathers honey from many different types of flowers.

My dear son, I used to call you an atheist. Now I don’t criticize anyone, because faith depends on adhikara. There is no question of criticism in this regard. Everyone is working according to their own adhikara, and they will advance gradually when the time is appropriate. You are a scholar of the sastras dealing with logic and fruitive action, and since your statements are in accordance with your adhikara, there is no fault in them.

Devidasa: Until now, I believed that there were no scholars in the Vaisnava sampradaya. I thought that the Vaisnavas were merely fanatics who concerned themselves solely with one part of the sastra, but what you have explained today has completely dispelled my misconceptions. Now I have faith that some of the Vaisnavas have truly understood the essence of the sastra.

- Jaiva Dharma, by Bhaktivinode Thakura, chapter 5

My thought: let gays have their own scene where they can have standards, rather than making it "all or nothing" out of a fear that it will destroy ISKCON's standard.

There is no need to transform temple (brahminical) standards, but at the same time, in order to create a path of progressive elevation we have to have secondary structures.

Without this we create a situation where as a gay person there is no difference between having 1 partner or 100 partners - both are equally outside the purview of any structure. And the fact is that there is a difference between those two scenarios, both socially and individually.

Give devotees like Amara prabhu the blessing to help people to rise to the platform of devotional service and to support them in their practice and gradual purification.

This is not transformation of ISKCON's core, but expansion of its mission. In addition to the brahminical temple we need the wider society with infrastructure and standards for people at all levels of spiritual development.

by sitapati at February 09, 2009 10:56 PM

ISKCON Melbourne, AU : Daily Class -Kadamba Kanana Swami

Srimad Bhagavatam 11.6.10 - Sages are ready to adjust according to Krsna's desire.

by Bhakti Sara Dasa at February 09, 2009 09:21 PM

Krishna kirti das, USA : Comments on Siddhanta.com

There were many comments on this site that had not been approved for a long time, and they are all now approved. If you want your comments to immediately appear, register as a user, and they will appear immediately when you post them. Sorry for the delay.

by krishna-kirti at February 09, 2009 09:18 PM

Bharatavarsa.net : Bhakti Vikasa Swami: why there is terrorism

On the topic of international terrorism, Prabhupada said that people should not expect to do away with terrorism as long as the vast majority of human beings were behaving as animals. If one ferocious beast fights with another in the jungle, he said, we should not be surprised. Similarly, as long as humanity lived as animals, without knowledge of selfrealization, then we could not expect an end to terroristic violence.

>From Living with the Scriptures by SDG

February 09, 2009 09:11 PM

Vrndavana Vinodini dd, Toronto, Canada : Beautiful Radha Damodara

Radha Damodara got a new outfit for Lord Nityananda's appearance day! Here are their lordships in the beautiful home they arranged for themselves here in Mayapur.



by Vrndavana Vinodini dd (noreply@blogger.com) at February 09, 2009 08:28 PM

Jahnavi, UK : Just Like Heart Thunder


Today is the appearance day of Narottama das Thakur. Last year at this time I was lucky enough to be in Vrindavan, and go for my second visit to the Radha Vrajmohan temple, where his deities are still being worshipped. It is a beautiful place, set deep within a series of turning alleys. The chaotic buzz of the bazaars fades into the distance, and the air is peaceful. The first time I went, we set off confidently from the other side of Vrindavan, only to find ourselves going round and round in circles, getting more and more frustrated with our rickshaw wallah, who had insisted (of course) that he knew where to go. This time we still got a little lost, but the alleys and brightly painted doors were more familiar, and eventually, we pulled up in front of the small entrance to the temple.

Inside, the pujari was cleaning the altar, but stopped when he saw us come in. ‘Ah!’, he said. ‘You came here before! Some time ago, yes?’ I was surprised at his memory, but nodded, assuming he said the same to any guest who looked vaguely familiar. He paused, looking thoughtful. ‘It was, during Kartik - on the disappearance day of Narottam Das Thakur, no?’ I was amazed that he remembered. Then again, I suppose redheads aren’t so numerous in rural Uttar Pradesh.

He ushered us up to the altar to see the deities. They are beautiful in a very simple way - not finely carved or expertly decorated, but they exude a sweetness and love that is often rare to come across.

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Part of their beauty comes from knowing that they were worshipped with incomparable care by Narottama Das Thakur, who inspires me so much. He was the epitome of a pure devotee of Krishna, using his ability to glorify him through words and music in a way that has benefited all who encounter his poetry and songs. He played six instruments, and developed rigorous classical methods of playing them, as a way of ornamenting the chanting of the Lord’s names. I find his writings an endless source of inspiration, but don’t read them nearly often enough. This morning, my Dad and I took a few minutes out of the day to sing ‘Sri Krsna Caitanya Prabhu’ together. It’s one of my favourites, and it was wonderful to read the translation after singing it, as it is a truly heartfelt and exemplary prayer. As Srila Prabhupada is often quoted saying: ‘The prayers of Narottama dasa Thakura - this sound is above the material platform. It is directly from the spiritual platform. And there is no need of understanding the language. It is just like a thunderburst. Everyone can hear the sound of thunder-there is no misunderstanding. Similarly, these songs are above the material platform, and they crack like thunder within your heart.’

      

by jahnavi at February 09, 2009 08:24 PM

Arcanam: Worship of the Deity : Nityananda Trayodasi Darshans

Their Lordships Shri Shri Gaura Nitia and Shri Shri Radha Ksira-Chora Gopinatha looking stunning on the Appearance Day of Sri Nityananda Prabhu. Darshan of my deities from the festival can be found in my gallery.

by Vijay Teli (noreply@blogger.com) at February 09, 2009 07:05 PM

Arcanam: Worship of the Deity : DIY Deity Jewellery: Necklaces- Part 3

Multi-tier Necklaces
These necklaces are easy to make and the technique can be modified to add or subtract tiers. This style creates the look of multiple necklaces but because it is a single piece you don’t need to worry about different necklaces getting tangled, making dressing really simple.

Supplies:

  1. Polyester Sewing Thread
  2. Extra Fine Beading Needle
  3. Seed Beads
  4. Decorative Beads (5 crystal bi-cones and 6 glass beads)
  5. Scissors
    Step 1: Begin by double stringing a generous length of the sewing thread on to your needle and tying a stop bead (simply tie a knot around a seed bead) towards the end, leaving a 3-4 inch tail.

    Step 2: String on 8-10 seed beads followed by a crystal bi-cone, then string on more seed beads to the desired length of the first necklace.

    Step 3: Next, string on one glass bead, a crystal bi-cone and three seed beads. To create the pendant, pass the needle back through the crystal bi-cone and pull the thread all the way through.

    Step 4: Complete the second side of the necklace with the glass bead, seed beads, crystal bi-cone and the seed beads. Then securely tie the ends of the string together.

    Step 5: Now to create the second tier pass the needle back through the seed beads and crystal bi-cone. Then you can begin stringing on your seed beads adding a few more than you did for the first tier to ensure this necklace will sit below the first one. Continue with the pattern as you did for the first necklace and securely tying off the thread.

    Step 6: At this point you could finish your necklace with two tiers, or you can repeat step five with more seed beads to create a third tier.

Some examples of these Multi-tier necklaces: Laddu Gopal’s and Radharani’s three tier necklaces were made using different patterns and beads for each tier. I really like these simple two tier necklaces as they make dressing my Gaura Nitai really easy.

by Vijay Teli (noreply@blogger.com) at February 09, 2009 06:50 PM

Dandavats.com : Aravade Temple Opening Festival - pics - updated

By Radhaprema Devi Dasi

The official opening of the temple in Aravade is set to turn the usually quiet bucolic village into a buzzing, spiritual wonderland, with thousands of cosmopolitan devotees from all over the world descending to engage in the festival, unarguably a first for this pastoral land.

by Administrator at February 09, 2009 06:14 PM

Gaura Vani, USA : Thursday Night Kirtan at East Village Temple

 Kirtan gets started. Gaura Vani & As Kindred Spirits

There is a revolution building. It started five hundred years ago and has been slowly leaking into cracks and crevices ever since. It’s slow moving, but very patient. It needs no one to thrive, but a chosen few are given the gift of being able to spread it. This revolution uplifts the heart and makes it dance, makes it sing, makes it laugh. It has the power to transport anyone to the best place ever. A place where there is nothing but love, where every word is a song and every step is a dance. This revolution is kirtan. We take up war against pride, envy, and greed every time we do kirtan and we re-dedicate ourselves to the cause: being loving, gentle, humble more full human beings. Our battle-cry and our armor is the Hare Krsna mantra and we can be heard singing at the top of our lungs. We sing into battle and defeat our opponents with dance, taking over their hearts and holding them captive. We hold onto our prisoners of war and only ask that they help take up our mission and spread kirtan as far and wide as they possibly can. This is As Kindred Spirits, this is our revolution. Our mission was the theme of the kirtan at the East Village Temple Yoga Studio performance. We implored that people look at the revolution that has been getting bigger and bigger and to become a part of it. We negotiated with them, telling them all the good points about it, and in the end, we did the one thing that we knew would capture them fully and bring them whole-heartedly to the cause…we did kirtan. (more…)

by acyuta.gopi at February 09, 2009 05:38 PM

David Haslam, UK : Transition

Are we aware of the problems of individuals coming out of Brahmacarya life into Grhastha? Should they be supported, guided? It is without a shadow of a doubt that temple life is the best, but practicality means that a majority will leave and take up household life. The transition can be difficult especially when it comes to the [...]

by WordPress at February 09, 2009 05:24 PM

1969 February 9 : "I am glad to know that you are anxious to begin tending the Deities in grand style. Before I instruct you further, let me know how you are conducting temple worship now from morning till night."
Letters :: 1969

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 09, 2009 02:25 PM

1969 February 9 : "It is up to the sons to obey the father and keep the relationship natural. A father cannot be displeased with his sons, but sometimes they create disturbances, and the father has to tolerate. "
Prabhupada Letters :: 1969

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 09, 2009 02:25 PM

1969 February 9 : "I am not displeased with any of my disciples. The little disturbances created by them were temporary. Now again they have come to their real consciousness."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1969

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 09, 2009 02:24 PM

1966 February 9 :
"Today morning I met Manager of 33 Riverside Drive, New York, N.Y. for occupying apartment No 307 on rent. Agreed and in the evening at 4/30 $140.00 was paid.
Expenditure: Bus fare .30 and rent above total $140.30"
Journal :: 1966

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 09, 2009 02:24 PM

1969 February 9: "On hearing from you, I shall start for London by the end of this month. When I go there I am sure I shall find out a suitable temple-house."
Prabhupada Letters :: 1969

by letters (wmdean@btopenworld.com) at February 09, 2009 02:23 PM