In the Japa Room Stage 9 we have been discussing our continuing obstacles during chanting....I thought I would share the transcript from the room with you all (this is an audio/visual room and my answers are spoken but I have typed them for this article). Names have been truncated for privacy.
RK: wasn't able to chant much because of exams
Rasa Rasika: Just try to arrange your day so that the first thing you do is chant your rounds...whatever that takes....go to bed earlier.
RK: but now completing the remaining beads left day by day
RasaRasika: "Chanting japa should be done early in the morning with full concentration preferably during the Brahma Muhurta time. Concentrate fully on the sound vibration of the mantra, pronouncing each name distinctly and gradually your speed in chanting will increase naturally. Do not worry so much about chanting fast, most important is the hearing." Srila Prabhupada 6/1/72
RK: actually I was in the colleg for the whole 2 dayz...i didn;t hv my bead bag wityh me..that's wy
Rasa Rasika: If you forget your beads you can actually use your fingers, there are three divisions on each finger that you count with your thumb (4 x 3 = 12) and on the other hand count 9....4 x 3 x 9 = 108
R: this room really is a great encouragement in chanting Japa
R: i dont remember,is chanting mentally the same as chanting out loud
Rasa Rasika: Mental chanting can be done outside the time we chant on beads....SP recommended for us to audibly chant the Holy names.
RasaRasika: "The first regulative principle is that one must chant the Hare Krsna maha-mantra loudly enough so that he can hear himself, and one must vow to chant a fixed number of rounds." Sri Caitanya caritamrta Antya-lila 11.24
M: I think that the most important thing to do is really get absorbed in the sound completely
AD: nice quote
R: so you say that there is an a as in day sound in Hare on the e in Hare?
Rasa Rasika: Yes correct, I find it of great benefit to listen to SP's Japa recording (the slow one) and you can get a good idea of the pronounciation.
AD: Do you have any experience of yours to share, when you started chanting, when did you get more concerned about your japa
Rasa Rasika: I personally started reforming my Japa many years ago and found that I had to slow down my chanting, right down to 10 mins per round (SP recommends not longer than 10 mins per round)...this enabled me to work on my pronounciation and I also starting hearing properly...to the sound vibration, which helps to counteract the wandering mind.
A: these days i have to struggle with my japa i cannot concentrate
A: my mind is wandering yes there r other things on my mind although i do my japa early @ 5am
Rasa Rasika: Devotee: "Srila Prabhupäda, it's very difficult to control my mind when I chant. It wanders.
Srila Prabhupada: "So what is the controlling of mind? You have to chant and hear. That is all. You have to chant with your tongue, and the sound you hear. What is the question of mind?"
RK: Is it neceassry to complete all ur rounds in a single sitting?
Rasa Rasika: Yes it's better to chant all your rounds in one sitting, it increases your chances to get in the zone and be able to capitalise on good consciousness when you're on a roll
RK: YES, I ill try..Thnks for the answer.....
R: what do you know about sitting while chanting or walking while chanting?Any difference
Rasa Rasika: It depends on the individual...some find sitting better but others fall asleep whilst sitting...if this is the case then you should walk around, whatever facilitates good Japa is desirable.
RK: What r the symptoms of one's getting into samadhi or progressing towards the samadhi stage?
Rasa Rasika: There are many symptoms that can be experienced, shivering of the body, crying uncontrollably, hair standing on end, a feeling of separation from Krsna etc. the main thing is to get the basics right first...SP has given us basic guidelines so that we can chant without offense....if we continue to avoid offenses and follow these guidelines, then naturally we will make progress towards samadhi.
RK: Can't ny1 reach this stage while still living in ghrahastya?
Rasa Rasika: Yes, regardless of asrama or varna, if we just chant very seriously then we will make progress to this stage...the main thing is that whatever situation we find ourselves in, if we chant the Hare Krsna mantra with great concentration and sincerity, then we can develop love of Krsna.
RK: wat's the max time 1 must chant out his 1 round??
Rasa Rasika: SP recommends not more than 10 mins per round.
A: i have lot of reforming to do before the next session. I take abt 6 mins to chant a round
Rasa Rasika: The main thing is to preserve good and clear pronounciation and hearing is the main thing for this....if it means slowing down your chanting then you can do that.
Rasa Rasika: "...Concentrate fully on the sound vibration of the mantra, pronouncing each name distinctly and gradually your speed in chanting will increase naturally. Do not worry so much about chanting fast, most important is the hearing." Srila Prabhupada 6/1/72
RK: I can't concenterate on all the words equally..particularly "hare" word..at other times sometimes i hear krishna word n sometimes rama word
Rasa Rasika: It's a matter of focusing the mind on the whole mantra...if you hear properly then that will be balanced.
R: at the first time when I chanted ,it took me about 15 minutes to complete a round
RK: I took me 45 min ..I chanted really slowly really concenterating very very hard on each word
RK: first time
RK: 2 rounds i think
R: my problems are either skipping beads or repeating a mantra on the same bead
Rasa Rasika: Then you may need to concentrate more and make sure this doesn't occur.....or get larger beads if your fingers are too big.
RK: I skip hare word a lot..
Rasa Rasika: Just concentrate very seriously on what you are chanting, it's very important to chant all the words clearly.
AD: How can we see our advancement as something natural, and not being anxious to feel attration to the Holy names faster
Rasa Rasika: Have faith that the Lord will bestow upon you spiritual advancement, as long as we are making a serious effort and are sincere, then Krsna will reward us accordingly. Krsna will bestow on us attraction for the Holy name if we are making an effort with our Japa.
RK: Im seeing improvement in my memory n thinking skills
AD: Does faith develop with determination on chanting .
Rasa Rasika: Faith comes from experiencing first hand the effects of chanting the Hare Krsna mantra, then our determination to continue comes from that faith and direct realisation.
R: If we make offense to Hare Krishna ,then its to Hare Krishna we must go for relief.
Rasa Rasika: Yes, by improving our Japa and continuing to chant, avoiding offenses, then we will get relief
RK: Is it ok FOR sm1 to chant japa if he is not interested in doing japa on bead?
Rasa Rasika: Beads are the best, I personally find it helps with concentration, also if they are Tulasi beads then you get the benefit of contact with the body of a pure devotee. Fingers can also be used as mentioned before.
RK: 1 of my friend chant like this
R: the name is actually a physical taste?
Rasa Rasika: The taste is a spiritual one not material....the taste comes from Krsna directly and he bestows that upon us when He sees our effort
AD: Talking about offense , how can we chant without wandering minds if we have commited an offense even , without having noticed
Rasa Rasika: Yes, we can still be committing offenses even if our mind isn't wandering...for instance to blaspheme a devotee who is chanting the Holy names of the Lord....if we continue to offend devotees then we are being offensive to the Holy names regardless if our mind is wandering or not.
RK: Today's japa room was really wonderful..got to know a lot of things..Thanks to rasa for the expalanations n all for their discussions
Rasa Rasika: Thank you all for coming along today, next week is Stage 10, summarization of all the stages.